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Subject: RE: /tmp/ramdisk mounted twice
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 08:58:54 -0700
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From: "Eric Crutchlow" <eric.crutchlow@onstor.com>
To: "Rendell Fong" <rendell.fong@onstor.com>,
	"Victor Carrell (Glasshouse)" <vcarrell@css.glasshouse.com>,
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All,

=20

I've written a wiki page on this at http://wiki/wiki/Ramdisk_full.
Please review and any suggestions are welcomed.

=20

Hopefully, this is accessible by GH. If not, let me know and I'll change
it.

Regards,=20

Eric Crutchlow=20
Professional Services Manager=20
t: 408-376-3113=20
f: 408-963-2409=20
m: 408-596-1155=20

________________________________

From: Rendell Fong=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:54 AM
To: Victor Carrell (Glasshouse); Brian DeForest; dl-cstech
Subject: RE: /tmp/ramdisk mounted twice

=20

In order to avoid creating a duplicate ramdisk mount I recommend using
"kill <pid>" instead of "kill -9 <pid>" to terminate the sscccc.  It
allows the existing sscccc to unmount the ramdisk and die gracefully
before the new sscccc mounts the ramdisk again.  Of course, if that
fails the "kill -9 <pid>" is your only option.

=20

________________________________

From: Victor Carrell (Glasshouse)=20
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:35 PM
To: Brian DeForest; dl-cstech
Subject: RE: /tmp/ramdisk mounted twice

=20

Hi Brain,

=20

            Thank you very much for the info.

=20

Victor

=20

________________________________

From: Brian DeForest [mailto:brian.deforest@onstor.com]=20
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:27 PM
To: Victor Carrell (Glasshouse); dl-cstech
Subject: RE: /tmp/ramdisk mounted twice

=20

The multiple redundant mounts consume unnecessary kernel resources which
eventually causes BSD to crash/reboot.   However this would only happen
after something like 10+ mounts of /tmp/ramdisk.   So the current
approach of killing the daemon is still probably preferable to
rebooting, unless this is being done repeatedly.

=20

________________________________

From: Victor Carrell (Glasshouse)=20
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:20 PM
To: Brian DeForest; dl-cstech
Subject: RE: /tmp/ramdisk mounted twice

=20

Thanks for the info.   Are there any work a rounds short of rebooting?

=20

Again Thanks

Victor

=20

________________________________

From: Brian DeForest [mailto:brian.deforest@onstor.com]=20
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:09 PM
To: Victor Carrell (Glasshouse); dl-cstech
Subject: RE: /tmp/ramdisk mounted twice

=20

Also, if the daemon is restarted too many times it will cause a BSD
crash/reboot in pre-Delorean releases.

=20

________________________________

From: Brian DeForest=20
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:07 PM
To: Victor Carrell (Glasshouse); dl-cstech
Subject: RE: /tmp/ramdisk mounted twice

=20

This is a bug fixed in the upcoming Delorean release.   =20

=20

________________________________

From: Victor Carrell (Glasshouse)=20
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 6:14 PM
To: dl-cstech
Subject: /tmp/ramdisk mounted twice

=20

Hi All,

=20

When killing the sscccc process /tmp/ramdisk gets mounted again.   Can
someone explain why and if this anything to be concerned with?

=20

=20

Thanks

Victor


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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font-family:Arial'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I&#8217;ve written a wiki page on this at <a
href=3D"http://wiki/wiki/Ramdisk_full">http://wiki/wiki/Ramdisk_full</a>.=
 Please
review and any suggestions are welcomed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hopefully, this is accessible by GH. If not, let me =
know and
I&#8217;ll change it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Regards,</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Eric
Crutchlow</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Professional
Services Manager</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>t:
408-376-3113</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>f:
408-963-2409</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>m:
408-596-1155</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

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</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
Rendell Fong <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 29, =
2007 8:54
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Victor Carrell =
(Glasshouse); <st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">Brian DeForest</st1:PersonName>; dl-cstech<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: /tmp/ramdisk =
mounted
twice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In order to avoid creating a =
duplicate
ramdisk mount I recommend using &#8220;kill &lt;pid&gt;&#8221; instead =
of
&#8220;kill -9 &lt;pid&gt;&#8221; to terminate the sscccc.&nbsp; It =
allows the
existing sscccc to unmount the ramdisk and die gracefully before the new =
sscccc
mounts the ramdisk again.&nbsp; Of course, if that fails the &#8220;kill =
-9
&lt;pid&gt;&#8221; is your only option.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
Victor Carrell
(Glasshouse) <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 28, =
2007 7:35 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Brian
 DeForest</st1:PersonName>; dl-cstech<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: /tmp/ramdisk =
mounted
twice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi =
Brain,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Thank you very much for the info.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Victor<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
<st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">Brian DeForest</st1:PersonName> =
[mailto:brian.deforest@onstor.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 28, =
2007 10:27
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Victor Carrell =
(Glasshouse);
dl-cstech<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: /tmp/ramdisk =
mounted
twice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The multiple redundant mounts =
consume
unnecessary kernel resources which eventually causes BSD to
crash/reboot.&nbsp;&nbsp; However this would only happen after something =
like
10+ mounts of /tmp/ramdisk.&nbsp;&nbsp; So the current approach of =
killing the
daemon is still probably preferable to rebooting, unless this is being =
done
repeatedly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
Victor Carrell
(Glasshouse) <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 28, =
2007 7:20 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Brian
 DeForest</st1:PersonName>; dl-cstech<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: /tmp/ramdisk =
mounted
twice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the info.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Are there
any work a rounds short of rebooting?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Again =
Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Victor<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
<st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">Brian DeForest</st1:PersonName> =
[mailto:brian.deforest@onstor.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 28, =
2007 10:09
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Victor Carrell =
(Glasshouse);
dl-cstech<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: /tmp/ramdisk =
mounted
twice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also, if the daemon is restarted =
too many
times it will cause a BSD crash/reboot in pre-Delorean =
releases.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
<st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">Brian DeForest</st1:PersonName> <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 28, =
2007 7:07 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Victor Carrell =
(Glasshouse);
dl-cstech<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: /tmp/ramdisk =
mounted
twice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is a bug fixed in the upcoming =
Delorean
release.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
Victor Carrell
(Glasshouse) <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 28, =
2007 6:14 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> dl-cstech<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> /tmp/ramdisk =
mounted
twice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>When killing the sscccc =
process
/tmp/ramdisk gets mounted again. &nbsp;&nbsp;Can someone explain why and =
if this
anything to be concerned with?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Victor<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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