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Subject: RE: Online eek functional spec
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:05:52 -0700
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From: "Paul Hammer" <paul.hammer@onstor.com>
To: "Andy Sharp" <andy.sharp@onstor.com>,
	"Brian DeForest" <brian.deforest@onstor.com>
Cc: "Jobi Ariyamannil" <jobi.ariyamannil@onstor.com>,
	"Amit Bothra" <amit.bothra@onstor.com>,
	"Sandrine Boulanger" <sandrine.boulanger@onstor.com>,
	"dl-Design Review" <dl-designreview@onstor.com>,
	"Narayan Venkat" <narayan.venkat@onstor.com>,
	"Sudheesh Nair" <sudheesh.nair@onstor.com>,
	"Eric Barrett" <eric.barrett@onstor.com>,
	"Huy Duong" <huy.duong@onstor.com>

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Hi All,
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We have struggled to get a list of commands that need to be promoted =
from Root (not in NCM or in some cases the cli)  to Admin (are in NCm =
and CLI). Last I recall Jay was working with CS to create the list of =
commands to promote, think this was back in 3.0. Don't think we want all =
diag commands in the NCM, do think things like Eek should be promoted =
but are not specific to the review of this spec. Who can define the list =
that should be promoted? Also, how can define the list of Diag commands =
that should be removed from the product (because we don't know what the =
command will do)?
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-Paul

________________________________

From: Andy Sharp
Sent: Mon 10/29/2007 2:29 PM
To: Brian DeForest
Cc: Jobi Ariyamannil; Amit Bothra; Sandrine Boulanger; dl-Design Review; =
Narayan Venkat; Sudheesh Nair; Eric Barrett; Huy Duong
Subject: Re: Online eek functional spec



I can't think of a reason why this should not have a standard user
interface like all other features.  That means available through the
GUI and all the rest.  Only available through root login?  Please.
We've been lazy.  Perpetrating the evil is just more evil.

Adding it to the nfxsh and whatever all else should be part of the spec
and the scope.

Just my opinion.

Cheers,

a

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:20:19 -0700 "Brian DeForest"
<brian.deforest@onstor.com> wrote:

> The issue/question is whether it should be in nfxsh.   If the
> consensus is that it doesn't need to be in nfxsh, then the issue is
> closed. Maybe others have an opinion.
>
> > _____________________________________________
> > From:       Jobi Ariyamannil=20
> > Sent:       Monday, October 29, 2007 1:28 PM
> > To: Brian DeForest; Amit Bothra; Sandrine Boulanger;
> > dl-Design Review
> > Subject:    RE: Online eek functional spec
> >
> > Eek was never part of nfxsh.  We did not plan to make it part of
> > nfxsh in R98.
> > Online eek implemention itself is going to take rest of the R98 time
> > (Nov 15 feature complete).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jobi
> >
> > _____________________________________________
> > From: Brian DeForest
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:21 PM
> > To: Amit Bothra; Sandrine Boulanger; dl-Design Review
> > Subject: RE: Online eek functional spec
> >
> > Maybe I'm missing something, but the incremental time it takes to
> > implement an admin command vs. diag command is maybe 2 more days at
> > most -- documentation (1 day) and internal review (1 day).
> >
> > Additionally, this is a highly requested feature so it presumably
> > should be exposed as an admin command.
> >
> > _____________________________________________
> > From:       Amit Bothra=20
> > Sent:       Monday, October 29, 2007 12:03 PM
> > To: Sandrine Boulanger; dl-Design Review
> > Subject:    RE: Online eek functional spec
> >
> > Hi Sandrine,
> >
> > I agree that its probably nice to have a CLI interface at admin
> > level for this, but given the time frame its not do-able.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Amit
> >
> > _____________________________________________
> > From: Sandrine Boulanger
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 11:24 AM
> > To: Amit Bothra; dl-Design Review
> > Subject: RE: Online eek functional spec
> >
> > If we want to give customers the ability to run online EEK,
> > shouldn't we provide a CLI interface at admin level instead of
> > having to login as root and go to bsd to start online eek?
> >
> > _____________________________________________
> > From: Amit Bothra
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:26 PM
> > To: dl-Design Review
> > Subject: Online eek functional spec
> >
> > Please review the attached online eek functional specification. Any
> > feedback is highly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Amit
> >
> >  << File: Online EEK - Func  Spec-v4.doc >>



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struggled to get a list of commands that need to be promoted from Root =
(not in NCM or in some cases the&nbsp;cli) &nbsp;to Admin (are in NCm =
and CLI). Last I recall Jay was working with CS to create the list of =
commands to promote, think this was back in 3.0. Don't think we want all =
diag commands in the NCM, do think things like Eek should be promoted =
but are not specific to the review of this spec. Who can define the list =
that should be promoted? Also, how can define the list of Diag commands =
that should be removed from the product (because we don't know what the =
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Andy Sharp<BR><B>Sent:</B> Mon =
10/29/2007 2:29 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Brian DeForest<BR><B>Cc:</B> Jobi =
Ariyamannil; Amit Bothra; Sandrine Boulanger; dl-Design Review; Narayan =
Venkat; Sudheesh Nair; Eric Barrett; Huy Duong<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
Online eek functional spec<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>=0A=
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<P><FONT size=3D2>I can't think of a reason why this should not have a =
standard user<BR>interface like all other features.&nbsp; That means =
available through the<BR>GUI and all the rest.&nbsp; Only available =
through root login?&nbsp; Please.<BR>We've been lazy.&nbsp; Perpetrating =
the evil is just more evil.<BR><BR>Adding it to the nfxsh and whatever =
all else should be part of the spec<BR>and the scope.<BR><BR>Just my =
opinion.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>a<BR><BR>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:20:19 =
-0700 "Brian DeForest"<BR>&lt;brian.deforest@onstor.com&gt; =
wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; The issue/question is whether it should be in =
nfxsh.&nbsp;&nbsp; If the<BR>&gt; consensus is that it doesn't need to =
be in nfxsh, then the issue is<BR>&gt; closed. Maybe others have an =
opinion.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
_____________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; From: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jobi Ariyamannil&nbsp;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Monday, October 29, 2007 1:28 =
PM<BR>&gt; &gt; To: Brian DeForest; Amit Bothra; Sandrine =
Boulanger;<BR>&gt; &gt; dl-Design Review<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RE: Online eek functional spec<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Eek was never part of nfxsh.&nbsp; We did not plan to =
make it part of<BR>&gt; &gt; nfxsh in R98.<BR>&gt; &gt; Online eek =
implemention itself is going to take rest of the R98 time<BR>&gt; &gt; =
(Nov 15 feature complete).<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Regards,<BR>&gt; =
&gt; Jobi<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
_____________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; From: Brian =
DeForest<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:21 PM<BR>&gt; =
&gt; To: Amit Bothra; Sandrine Boulanger; dl-Design Review<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Subject: RE: Online eek functional spec<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Maybe =
I'm missing something, but the incremental time it takes to<BR>&gt; &gt; =
implement an admin command vs. diag command is maybe 2 more days =
at<BR>&gt; &gt; most -- documentation (1 day) and internal review (1 =
day).<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Additionally, this is a highly requested =
feature so it presumably<BR>&gt; &gt; should be exposed as an admin =
command.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
_____________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; From: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Amit Bothra&nbsp;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Monday, October 29, 2007 12:03 =
PM<BR>&gt; &gt; To: Sandrine Boulanger; dl-Design Review<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RE: Online eek functional spec<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Hi Sandrine,<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I agree that =
its probably nice to have a CLI interface at admin<BR>&gt; &gt; level =
for this, but given the time frame its not do-able.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt; Thanks,<BR>&gt; &gt; Amit<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
_____________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; From: =
Sandrine Boulanger<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 11:24 =
AM<BR>&gt; &gt; To: Amit Bothra; dl-Design Review<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: =
RE: Online eek functional spec<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; If we want to =
give customers the ability to run online EEK,<BR>&gt; &gt; shouldn't we =
provide a CLI interface at admin level instead of<BR>&gt; &gt; having to =
login as root and go to bsd to start online eek?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt; _____________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; From: =
Amit Bothra<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:26 =
PM<BR>&gt; &gt; To: dl-Design Review<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: Online eek =
functional spec<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Please review the attached =
online eek functional specification. Any<BR>&gt; &gt; feedback is highly =
appreciated.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Thanks,<BR>&gt; &gt; Amit<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &lt;&lt; File: Online EEK - Func&nbsp; =
Spec-v4.doc &gt;&gt;<BR></FONT></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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