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Subject: RE: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)
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From: "Paul Hammer" <paul.hammer@onstor.com>
To: "Tim Gardner" <tim.gardner@onstor.com>,
	"Sandrine Boulanger" <sandrine.boulanger@onstor.com>,
	"Jay Michlin" <jay.michlin@onstor.com>,
	"Caeli Collins" <caeli.collins@onstor.com>,
	"Jerry Lopatin" <jerry.lopatin@onstor.com>,
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	"Sudheesh Nair" <sudheesh.nair@onstor.com>
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Agree.=20

________________________________

From: Tim Gardner
Sent: Fri 5/4/2007 2:55 PM
To: Paul Hammer; Sandrine Boulanger; Jay Michlin; Caeli Collins; Jerry =
Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair
Cc: Larry Scheer; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp
Subject: RE: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)



This issue is completely independent of the standalone install for which =
CS is developing requirements.

=20

________________________________

From: Paul Hammer=20
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:35 PM
To: Tim Gardner; Sandrine Boulanger; Jay Michlin; Caeli Collins; Jerry =
Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair
Cc: Larry Scheer; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp
Subject: RE: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)

=20

Not sure makes sense anymore given the requirement to make install a one =
step process in Delorean. That said I suspect the requimrement from CE =
is going to include that custoemrs can go from any release to 3.0 and =
not have to load a 223 to get there. Lets discuss.

=20

________________________________

From: Tim Gardner
Sent: Fri 5/4/2007 1:59 PM
To: Sandrine Boulanger; Jay Michlin; Paul Hammer; Caeli Collins; Jerry =
Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair
Cc: Larry Scheer; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp
Subject: RE: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)

Yes, they do. They are not independent. The upgrade utility has checks =
built in to verify that the destination flash is

using the new layout. The utility will fail if the destination flash is =
not using the new layout. This was done to

force all customers to the new layout. We agreed awhile back to only =
support 3.0 on the new flash layout.

The implication of back porting the install/upgrade changes to 2.2.3 is =
that you must upgrade to the new

layout before attempting to install any release after 2.2.3 has been =
installed.

_____________________________________________
From: Sandrine Boulanger
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:39 PM
To: Jay Michlin; Paul Hammer; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; Andrew =
LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair
Cc: Larry Scheer; Tim Gardner; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp
Subject: RE: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)

Upgrade and flash layout are separate, they don't have to go together in =
2.2.3.=20

_____________________________________________
From: Jay Michlin
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:19 PM
To: Paul Hammer; Sandrine Boulanger; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; =
Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair
Cc: Larry Scheer; Tim Gardner; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp
Subject: FW: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)

This is just FYI. We agreed to ship the two-step Delorean upgrade as a =
backup to the flash and one-step upgrade, though we don't plan to =
document or otherwise publicize the existence of the two-step method. =
Step one is in Release 2.2.3, which Ed is working on now.

Keep in mind that using the upgrade program in 2.2.3 will reformat the =
flash to the Delorean format. In general, that's a good thing, and will =
add to stability of the system. There is also no backward compatibility =
issue.

However, there is no way to go back to the old flash format. I can't =
imagine why anybody would, but just for the record, we should keep that =
in mind.

jay

=20

______________________________________________=20

From:   Larry Scheer =20

Sent:   Friday, May 04, 2007 11:19 AM

To:     Ed Kwan; Ken Renshaw

Cc:     Tim Gardner; Jay Michlin; Andy Sharp

Subject:        Change list for 2.2.3

Ed, Ken,

        Here are the change numbers that get all of the upgrade and =
flash changes that are understood to make up the release that will allow =
a system upgrade command to install the Delorean release.

Engineering requires the compact flash changes be part of this release. =
This means once this release is installed all releases beyond this =
version will need to have the new compact flash layout.

The changes are:

23306 23607 23608 23652 23742 and 23839.

Changes 23607, 23608 and 23742 contain changes to files in openbsd/src.

Larry


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Michlin; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh =
Nair<BR><B>Cc:</B> Larry Scheer; Brian DeForest; Andy =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Paul Hammer <BR><B><SPAN =
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PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Tim Gardner; =
Sandrine Boulanger; Jay Michlin; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; Andrew =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Not sure =
makes sense anymore given the requirement to make install a one step =
process in Delorean. That said I suspect the requimrement from CE is =
going to include that custoemrs can go from any release to 3.0 and not =
have to load a 223 to get there. Lets =
discuss.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>=0A=
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size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Tim =
Gardner<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri =
5/4/2007 1:59 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
Sandrine Boulanger; Jay Michlin; Paul Hammer; Caeli Collins; Jerry =
Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair<BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Larry Scheer; Brian DeForest; =
Andy Sharp<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> =
RE: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>=0A=
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<P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes, they do. They are not =
independent. The</SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">upgrade utility has checks built in to verify that the =
destination flash is</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">using the new layout. The utility =
will fail if the destination flash is not using the new layout. This was =
done to</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">force all customers to the new =
layout. We agreed awhile back to only support 3.0 on the new flash =
layout.</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The implication of back porting =
the install/upgrade changes to 2.2.3 is that you must upgrade to the =
new</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
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install any release after 2.2.3 has been installed.</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
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FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">_____________________________________________<BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Sandrine =
Boulanger<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Friday, May 04, 2007 1:39 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B> Jay Michlin; Paul Hammer; Caeli Collins; Jerry =
Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair<BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Larry Scheer; Tim Gardner; =
Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Change list for 2.2.3 =
(FYI)</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Upgrade and flash layout are =
separate, they don&#8217;t have to go together in 2.2.3. =
</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">_____________________________________________<BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jay Michlin<BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, May 04, 2007 1:19 =
PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Paul Hammer; =
Sandrine Boulanger; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; =
Sudheesh Nair<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> =
Larry Scheer; Tim Gardner; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp<BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> FW: Change list for =
2.2.3 (FYI)</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This is just FYI. We agreed to =
ship the two-step Delorean upgrade as a backup to the flash and one-step =
upgrade, though we don't plan to document or otherwise publicize the =
existence of the two-step method. Step one is in Release 2.2.3, which Ed =
is working on now.</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Keep in mind that using the =
upgrade program in 2.2.3 will reformat the flash to the Delorean format. =
In general, that's a good thing, and will add to stability of the =
system. There is also no backward compatibility issue.</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">However, there is no way to go =
back to the old flash format. I can't imagine why anybody would, but =
just for the record, we should keep that in mind.</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">jay</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">______________________________________________ =
</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; =
FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From: &nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></B> =
<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Larry Scheer</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">&nbsp; =
</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; =
FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></B> <FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Friday, =
May 04, 2007 11:19 AM</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; =
FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></B> <FONT =
face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">Ed Kwan</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">; Ken =
Renshaw</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; =
FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">Cc:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></B> <FONT =
face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">Tim Gardner</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">; Jay Michlin; Andy =
Sharp</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; =
FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><=
/B> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Change list for 2.2.3</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ed, Ken,</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Here are the change numbers that get all of the upgrade and flash =
changes that are understood to make up the release that will allow a =
system upgrade command to install the Delorean release.</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Engineering requires the compact flash changes be =
part of this release. This means once this release is installed all =
releases beyond this version will need to have the new compact flash =
layout.</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The changes are:</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">23306 23607 23608 23652 23742 and =
23839.</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Changes 23607, 23608 and 23742 contain changes to =
files in openbsd/src.</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Larry</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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