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Subject: RE: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)
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From: "Paul Hammer" <paul.hammer@onstor.com>
To: "Tim Gardner" <tim.gardner@onstor.com>,
	"Sandrine Boulanger" <sandrine.boulanger@onstor.com>,
	"Jay Michlin" <jay.michlin@onstor.com>,
	"Caeli Collins" <caeli.collins@onstor.com>,
	"Jerry Lopatin" <jerry.lopatin@onstor.com>,
	"Andrew LeFebvre" <andrew.lefebvre@onstor.com>,
	"Sudheesh Nair" <sudheesh.nair@onstor.com>
Cc: "Larry Scheer" <larry.scheer@onstor.com>,
	"Brian DeForest" <brian.deforest@onstor.com>,
	"Andy Sharp" <andy.sharp@onstor.com>

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Not sure makes sense anymore given the requirement to make install a one =
step process in Delorean. That said I suspect the requimrement from CE =
is going to include that custoemrs can go from any release to 3.0 and =
not have to load a 223 to get there. Lets discuss.

________________________________

From: Tim Gardner
Sent: Fri 5/4/2007 1:59 PM
To: Sandrine Boulanger; Jay Michlin; Paul Hammer; Caeli Collins; Jerry =
Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair
Cc: Larry Scheer; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp
Subject: RE: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)



Yes, they do. They are not independent. The upgrade utility has checks =
built in to verify that the destination flash is

using the new layout. The utility will fail if the destination flash is =
not using the new layout. This was done to

force all customers to the new layout. We agreed awhile back to only =
support 3.0 on the new flash layout.

The implication of back porting the install/upgrade changes to 2.2.3 is =
that you must upgrade to the new

layout before attempting to install any release after 2.2.3 has been =
installed.

_____________________________________________
From: Sandrine Boulanger
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:39 PM
To: Jay Michlin; Paul Hammer; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; Andrew =
LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair
Cc: Larry Scheer; Tim Gardner; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp
Subject: RE: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)

Upgrade and flash layout are separate, they don't have to go together in =
2.2.3.=20

_____________________________________________
From: Jay Michlin
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:19 PM
To: Paul Hammer; Sandrine Boulanger; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; =
Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair
Cc: Larry Scheer; Tim Gardner; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp
Subject: FW: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)

This is just FYI. We agreed to ship the two-step Delorean upgrade as a =
backup to the flash and one-step upgrade, though we don't plan to =
document or otherwise publicize the existence of the two-step method. =
Step one is in Release 2.2.3, which Ed is working on now.

Keep in mind that using the upgrade program in 2.2.3 will reformat the =
flash to the Delorean format. In general, that's a good thing, and will =
add to stability of the system. There is also no backward compatibility =
issue.

However, there is no way to go back to the old flash format. I can't =
imagine why anybody would, but just for the record, we should keep that =
in mind.

jay


______________________________________________=20

From:   Larry Scheer =20

Sent:   Friday, May 04, 2007 11:19 AM

To:     Ed Kwan; Ken Renshaw

Cc:     Tim Gardner; Jay Michlin; Andy Sharp

Subject:        Change list for 2.2.3

Ed, Ken,

        Here are the change numbers that get all of the upgrade and =
flash changes that are understood to make up the release that will allow =
a system upgrade command to install the Delorean release.

Engineering requires the compact flash changes be part of this release. =
This means once this release is installed all releases beyond this =
version will need to have the new compact flash layout.

The changes are:

23306 23607 23608 23652 23742 and 23839.

Changes 23607, 23608 and 23742 contain changes to files in openbsd/src.

Larry


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makes sense anymore given the requirement to make install a one step =
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going to include that custoemrs can go from any release to 3.0 and not =
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Tim Gardner<BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Fri 5/4/2007 1:59 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Sandrine Boulanger; Jay Michlin; Paul =
Hammer; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh =
Nair<BR><B>Cc:</B> Larry Scheer; Brian DeForest; Andy =
Sharp<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Change list for 2.2.3 =
(FYI)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>=0A=
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<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000080 =
size=3D2>Yes, they do. They are not independent. The</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us> <FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#000080 size=3D2>upgrade utility</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#000080 size=3D2> has checks built in to verify that the =
destination flash is</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000080 =
size=3D2>using the new layout. The utility will fail if the destination =
flash is not using the new layout. This was done to</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000080 =
size=3D2>force all customers to the new layout. We agreed awhile back to =
only support 3.0 on the new flash layout.</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000080 =
size=3D2>The implication of back porting the install/upgrade changes to =
2.2.3 is that you must upgrade to the new</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000080 =
size=3D2>layout before attempting to install any release after 2.2.3 has =
been installed.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2>_____________________________________________<BR></FONT></SPAN><=
SPAN lang=3Den-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B><FONT =
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>From:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> =
Sandrine Boulanger<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2>Sent:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> Friday, May 04, 2007 1:39 =
PM<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>To:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> Jay =
Michlin; Paul Hammer; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; =
Sudheesh Nair<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Cc:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> =
Larry Scheer; Tim Gardner; Brian DeForest; Andy =
Sharp<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2>Subject:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> RE: Change list for 2.2.3 =
(FYI)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000080 =
size=3D2>Upgrade and flash layout are separate, they don&#8217;t have to =
go together in 2.2.3. </FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2>_____________________________________________<BR></FONT></SPAN><=
SPAN lang=3Den-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B><FONT =
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>From:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> Jay =
Michlin<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2>Sent:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> Friday, May 04, 2007 1:19 =
PM<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>To:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> =
Paul Hammer; Sandrine Boulanger; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; Andrew =
LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2>Cc:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> Larry Scheer; Tim Gardner; =
Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><B></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2>Subject:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> FW: Change list for 2.2.3 =
(FYI)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>This is just FYI. We agreed to ship the two-step Delorean =
upgrade as a backup to the flash and one-step upgrade, though we don't =
plan to document or otherwise publicize the existence of the two-step =
method. Step one is in Release 2.2.3, which Ed is working on =
now.</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Keep in mind that using the upgrade program in 2.2.3 will =
reformat the flash to the Delorean format. In general, that's a good =
thing, and will add to stability of the system. There is also no =
backward compatibility issue.</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>However, there is no way to go back to the old flash format. I =
can't imagine why anybody would, but just for the record, we should keep =
that in mind.</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>jay</FONT></SPAN></P><BR>=0A=
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size=3D1>______________________________________________ =
</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1>From: =
&nbsp;</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us> =
<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1>Larry Scheer&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D1>Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us> <FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D1>Friday, May 04, 2007 11:19 AM</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D1>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1>Ed =
Kwan; Ken Renshaw</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D1>Cc:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D1>Tim =
Gardner; Jay Michlin; Andy Sharp</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D1>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B></S=
PAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us> <FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D1>Change list for 2.2.3</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ed, =
Ken,</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>Here are the change numbers that get all of the =
upgrade and flash changes that are understood to make up the release =
that will allow a system upgrade command to install the Delorean =
release.</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Engineering requires the compact flash changes be part of this =
release. This means once this release is installed all releases beyond =
this version will need to have the new compact flash =
layout.</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The =
changes are:</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>23306 =
23607 23608 23652 23742 and 23839.</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Changes =
23607, 23608 and 23742 contain changes to files in =
openbsd/src.</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A=
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Larry</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-us></SPAN></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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