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Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:59:16 -0700
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Thread-Topic: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)
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From: "Tim Gardner" <tim.gardner@onstor.com>
To: "Sandrine Boulanger" <sandrine.boulanger@onstor.com>,
	"Jay Michlin" <jay.michlin@onstor.com>,
	"Paul Hammer" <paul.hammer@onstor.com>,
	"Caeli Collins" <caeli.collins@onstor.com>,
	"Jerry Lopatin" <jerry.lopatin@onstor.com>,
	"Andrew LeFebvre" <andrew.lefebvre@onstor.com>,
	"Sudheesh Nair" <sudheesh.nair@onstor.com>
Cc: "Larry Scheer" <larry.scheer@onstor.com>,
	"Brian DeForest" <brian.deforest@onstor.com>,
	"Andy Sharp" <andy.sharp@onstor.com>

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Yes, they do. They are not independent. The upgrade utility has checks
built in to verify that the destination flash is
using the new layout. The utility will fail if the destination flash is
not using the new layout. This was done to
force all customers to the new layout. We agreed awhile back to only
support 3.0 on the new flash layout.
The implication of back porting the install/upgrade changes to 2.2.3 is
that you must upgrade to the new
layout before attempting to install any release after 2.2.3 has been
installed.

_____________________________________________
From: Sandrine Boulanger=20
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:39 PM
To: Jay Michlin; Paul Hammer; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; Andrew
LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair
Cc: Larry Scheer; Tim Gardner; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp
Subject: RE: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)

Upgrade and flash layout are separate, they don't have to go together in
2.2.3.=20

_____________________________________________
From: Jay Michlin=20
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:19 PM
To: Paul Hammer; Sandrine Boulanger; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin;
Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair
Cc: Larry Scheer; Tim Gardner; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp
Subject: FW: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)

This is just FYI. We agreed to ship the two-step Delorean upgrade as a
backup to the flash and one-step upgrade, though we don't plan to
document or otherwise publicize the existence of the two-step method.
Step one is in Release 2.2.3, which Ed is working on now.

Keep in mind that using the upgrade program in 2.2.3 will reformat the
flash to the Delorean format. In general, that's a good thing, and will
add to stability of the system. There is also no backward compatibility
issue.

However, there is no way to go back to the old flash format. I can't
imagine why anybody would, but just for the record, we should keep that
in mind.

jay


______________________________________________=20
From: 	Larry Scheer =20
Sent:	Friday, May 04, 2007 11:19 AM
To:	Ed Kwan; Ken Renshaw
Cc:	Tim Gardner; Jay Michlin; Andy Sharp
Subject:	Change list for 2.2.3

Ed, Ken,
	Here are the change numbers that get all of the upgrade and
flash changes that are understood to make up the release that will allow
a system upgrade command to install the Delorean release.

Engineering requires the compact flash changes be part of this release.
This means once this release is installed all releases beyond this
version will need to have the new compact flash layout.

The changes are:

23306 23607 23608 23652 23742 and 23839.

Changes 23607, 23608 and 23742 contain changes to files in openbsd/src.

Larry

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<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Yes, they do. They are not independent. =
The</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"> <FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">upgrade =
utility</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> has =
checks built in to verify that the destination flash =
is</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">using the new layout. The utility will fail if the =
destination flash is not using the new layout. This was done =
to</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">force all customers to the new layout. We agreed awhile =
back to only support 3.0 on the new flash layout.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">The implication of back porting the install/upgrade =
changes to 2.2.3 is that you must upgrade to the new</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">layout before attempting to install any release after =
2.2.3 has been installed.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">_____________________________________________<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">From:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma"> Sandrine Boulanger<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Sent:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma"> Friday, May 04, 2007 1:39 =
PM<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">To:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma"> Jay Michlin; Paul Hammer; =
Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh Nair<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Cc:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma"> Larry Scheer; Tim =
Gardner; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Subject:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma"> RE: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Upgrade and flash layout are separate, they don&#8217;t =
have to go together in 2.2.3. </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">_____________________________________________<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">From:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma"> Jay Michlin<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Sent:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma"> Friday, May 04, 2007 1:19 =
PM<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">To:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma"> Paul Hammer; Sandrine =
Boulanger; Caeli Collins; Jerry Lopatin; Andrew LeFebvre; Sudheesh =
Nair<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Cc:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Tahoma"> Larry Scheer; Tim =
Gardner; Brian DeForest; Andy Sharp<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Subject:</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma"> FW: Change list for 2.2.3 (FYI)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">This is just FYI. We agreed to ship the two-step Delorean =
upgrade as a backup to the flash and one-step upgrade, though we don't =
plan to document or otherwise publicize the existence of the two-step =
method. Step one is in Release 2.2.3, which Ed is working on =
now.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Keep in mind that using the upgrade program in 2.2.3 will =
reformat the flash to the Delorean format. In general, that's a good =
thing, and will add to stability of the system. There is also no =
backward compatibility issue.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">However, there is no way to go back to the old flash =
format. I can't imagine why anybody would, but just for the record, we =
should keep that in mind.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">jay</FONT></SPAN></P>
<BR>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">______________________________________________ =
</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">From: &nbsp;</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"> <FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Larry Scheer&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"> <FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Friday, May 04, 2007 11:19 AM</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"> <FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Ed Kwan; Ken Renshaw</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Cc:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"> <FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Tim Gardner; Jay Michlin; Andy Sharp</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT>=
</B></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"> <FONT =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Change list for 2.2.3</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ed, =
Ken,</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Here are the change numbers that get all of the upgrade =
and flash changes that are understood to make up the release that will =
allow a system upgrade command to install the Delorean =
release.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Engineering requires the compact flash changes be part of =
this release. This means once this release is installed all releases =
beyond this version will need to have the new compact flash =
layout.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">The =
changes are:</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">23306 =
23607 23608 23652 23742 and 23839.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Changes 23607, 23608 and 23742 contain changes to files =
in openbsd/src.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Larry</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN></P>

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