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Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 10:47:46 -0700
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Well the 4GB Bobcat could be done! :)

________________________________

From: Brian Stark
Sent: Thu 5/3/2007 10:41 AM
To: Jeff Miller; Bill Nadzam
Cc: dl-Cougar
Subject: RE: Just wondering


This is what we did with the 2312 development and is why I suggested the =
HBA.  QLogic may even have a HBA with a 2432 PCI-e controller and a =
PCI-e to PCI-X bridge.  This would allow the same device that's used on =
Cougar to be brought up in a PCI-X slot.
=20
I wish I could put one of these parts down on Bobcat.  The 2312 has 388 =
pins while the 24xx devices have around 500.  The interrupt lines are =
much easier to deal with!
=20
=20
Brian
=20


________________________________

	From: Jeff Miller=20
	Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:36 AM
	To: Bill Nadzam; Brian Stark
	Cc: dl-Cougar
	Subject: RE: Just wondering
=09
=09

	Another idea is the 1250 eval board - doesn't it have PCI-X slots?  =
It's the ATX board, right? This might be pretty close to Cougar =
hardware.  Probably not worth the trouble, though.

	Jeff

	=20

=09
________________________________


	From: Bill Nadzam=20
	Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:28 AM
	To: Jeff Miller; Brian Stark
	Cc: dl-Cougar
	Subject: RE: Just wondering

	=20

	Well, its not a matter of "WOW how do I do this"

	Its just different enough that I would have liked to get that stuff =
working first.

	Before I need to get the now base hardware going as well.

	Looking at Linux drivers, although interesting, will not really help me =
in the long run.

	It was just a thought... I mean Andy got him to hook up all the =
interrupt lines, I thought maybe he would hook me up with a ISP2422.

	=20

	He must like Andy more.

	=20

=09
________________________________


	From: Jeff Miller
	Sent: Thu 5/3/2007 10:25 AM
	To: Bill Nadzam; Brian Stark
	Cc: dl-Cougar
	Subject: RE: Just wondering

	Is there a 4gig PCI-X part that is pin compatible with the 2312?  What =
about 2422 or 2422m?  They don't seem to have any chip info on their web =
site anymore or I would look.  Bill - would looking at Linux driver =
diffs help?  I haven't looked but that could be an example.

	Jeff

	=20

=09
________________________________


	From: Bill Nadzam=20
	Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:13 AM
	To: Brian Stark
	Cc: dl-Cougar
	Subject: RE: Just wondering

	=20

	Thanks for looking into it.

	Too bad though, this Chip has some very different sequence issues, and =
I would have loved to get that working on the Bobcat first.

	=20

=09
________________________________


	From: Brian Stark
	Sent: Thu 5/3/2007 10:00 AM
	To: Bill Nadzam
	Cc: dl-Cougar
	Subject: RE: Just wondering

	Bill,

	=20

	Unfortunately, this is not an option since the 2432 is not =
pin-compatible with the 2312 on Bobcat.  Alternatively, we could look at =
getting a 2432 HBA and then plug it into a desktop machine that supports =
PCI-e.

	=20

	=20

	Brian

	=20

		=20

	=09
________________________________


		From: Bill Nadzam=20
		Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:39 PM
		To: Brian Stark
		Cc: dl-Cougar
		Subject: Just wondering

		Is there any way to place the ISP2432 on the Bobcat motherboard?

		I could use this for the new QLogic bring up. Even if I had to limit =
the transfer to 1GB.


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Thu 5/3/2007 10:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Jeff Miller; Bill =
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face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>This is what we did with the 2312 =
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HBA with a&nbsp;2432 PCI-e controller and a PCI-e to PCI-X bridge.&nbsp; =
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Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:36 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Bill Nadzam; Brian =
Stark<BR><B>Cc:</B> dl-Cougar<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Just =
wondering<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>=0A=
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Bill Nadzam <BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, May 03, 2007 =
10:28 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Jeff =
Miller; Brian Stark<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
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Miller<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thu =
5/3/2007 10:25 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
Bill Nadzam; Brian Stark<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> dl-Cougar<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Just wondering</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>=0A=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is there a =
4gig PCI-X part that is pin compatible with the 2312?&nbsp; What about =
2422 or 2422m?&nbsp; They don&#8217;t seem to have any chip info on =
their web site anymore or I would look.&nbsp; Bill &#8211; would looking =
at Linux driver diffs help? &nbsp;I haven&#8217;t looked but that could =
be an example.</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
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style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Bill Nadzam <BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, May 03, 2007 =
10:13 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Brian =
Stark<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> =
dl-Cougar<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> =
RE: Just wondering</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>=0A=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for =
looking into it.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>=0A=
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Too bad though, this Chip =
has some very different sequence issues, and I would have loved to get =
that working on the Bobcat first.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>=0A=
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10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Brian =
Stark<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thu =
5/3/2007 10:00 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
Bill Nadzam<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> =
dl-Cougar<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> =
RE: Just wondering</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>=0A=
<DIV>=0A=
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Bill,</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Unfortunately, this is not an option since the 2432 is not =
pin-compatible with the 2312 on Bobcat.&nbsp; Alternatively, we could =
look at getting a 2432 HBA and then plug it into a desktop machine that =
supports PCI-e.</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
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10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Bill =
Nadzam <BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:39 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B> Brian Stark<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> dl-Cougar<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Just wondering</SPAN></FONT></P>=0A=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is there any way to place =
the ISP2432 on the Bobcat motherboard?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>=0A=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I could use this for the =
new QLogic bring up. Even if I had to limit the transfer to =
1GB.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><=
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