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This is what we did with the 2312 development and is why I suggested the
HBA.  QLogic may even have a HBA with a 2432 PCI-e controller and a
PCI-e to PCI-X bridge.  This would allow the same device that's used on
Cougar to be brought up in a PCI-X slot.
=20
I wish I could put one of these parts down on Bobcat.  The 2312 has 388
pins while the 24xx devices have around 500.  The interrupt lines are
much easier to deal with!
=20
=20
Brian
=20


________________________________

	From: Jeff Miller=20
	Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:36 AM
	To: Bill Nadzam; Brian Stark
	Cc: dl-Cougar
	Subject: RE: Just wondering
=09
=09

	Another idea is the 1250 eval board - doesn't it have PCI-X
slots?  It's the ATX board, right? This might be pretty close to Cougar
hardware.  Probably not worth the trouble, though.

	Jeff

	=20

=09
________________________________


	From: Bill Nadzam=20
	Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:28 AM
	To: Jeff Miller; Brian Stark
	Cc: dl-Cougar
	Subject: RE: Just wondering

	=20

	Well, its not a matter of "WOW how do I do this"

	Its just different enough that I would have liked to get that
stuff working first.

	Before I need to get the now base hardware going as well.

	Looking at Linux drivers, although interesting, will not really
help me in the long run.

	It was just a thought... I mean Andy got him to hook up all the
interrupt lines, I thought maybe he would hook me up with a ISP2422.

	=20

	He must like Andy more.

	=20

=09
________________________________


	From: Jeff Miller
	Sent: Thu 5/3/2007 10:25 AM
	To: Bill Nadzam; Brian Stark
	Cc: dl-Cougar
	Subject: RE: Just wondering

	Is there a 4gig PCI-X part that is pin compatible with the 2312?
What about 2422 or 2422m?  They don't seem to have any chip info on
their web site anymore or I would look.  Bill - would looking at Linux
driver diffs help?  I haven't looked but that could be an example.

	Jeff

	=20

=09
________________________________


	From: Bill Nadzam=20
	Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:13 AM
	To: Brian Stark
	Cc: dl-Cougar
	Subject: RE: Just wondering

	=20

	Thanks for looking into it.

	Too bad though, this Chip has some very different sequence
issues, and I would have loved to get that working on the Bobcat first.

	=20

=09
________________________________


	From: Brian Stark
	Sent: Thu 5/3/2007 10:00 AM
	To: Bill Nadzam
	Cc: dl-Cougar
	Subject: RE: Just wondering

	Bill,

	=20

	Unfortunately, this is not an option since the 2432 is not
pin-compatible with the 2312 on Bobcat.  Alternatively, we could look at
getting a 2432 HBA and then plug it into a desktop machine that supports
PCI-e.

	=20

	=20

	Brian

	=20

		=20

	=09
________________________________


		From: Bill Nadzam=20
		Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:39 PM
		To: Brian Stark
		Cc: dl-Cougar
		Subject: Just wondering

		Is there any way to place the ISP2432 on the Bobcat
motherboard?

		I could use this for the new QLogic bring up. Even if I
had to limit the transfer to 1GB.


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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>This is what we did with the 2312 development =
and is why I=20
suggested the HBA.&nbsp; QLogic may even have a HBA with a&nbsp;2432 =
PCI-e=20
controller and a PCI-e to PCI-X bridge.&nbsp; This would allow the same =
device=20
that's used on Cougar to be brought up in a PCI-X =
slot.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D129523617-03052007><FONT =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D129523617-03052007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I wish I could put one of these parts down on =
Bobcat.&nbsp;=20
The 2312 has 388 pins while the 24xx devices have around 500.&nbsp; The=20
interrupt lines are much easier to deal with!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
class=3D129523617-03052007></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D129523617-03052007><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Brian</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Thursday,=20
  May 03, 2007 10:36 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Bill Nadzam; Brian =
Stark<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
  dl-Cougar<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Just wondering<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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idea is the=20
  1250 eval board &#8211; doesn&#8217;t it have PCI-X slots?&nbsp; =
It&#8217;s the ATX board,=20
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Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"> Bill=20
  Nadzam <BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Thursday, May=20
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bold">To:</SPAN></B> Jeff=20
  Miller; Brian Stark<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>=20
  dl-Cougar<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> =
RE: Just=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Well, its =
not a=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Before I need to get the =
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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I mean=20
  Andy got him to hook up all the interrupt lines, I thought maybe he =
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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  10:25 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Bill =
Nadzam;=20
  Brian Stark<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>=20
  dl-Cougar<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> =
RE: Just=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is there a =
4gig PCI-X=20
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  2422m?&nbsp; They don&#8217;t seem to have any chip info on their web =
site anymore=20
  or I would look.&nbsp; Bill &#8211; would looking at Linux driver =
diffs help?=20
  &nbsp;I haven&#8217;t looked but that could be an=20
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  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"> Bill=20
  Nadzam <BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Thursday, May=20
  03, 2007 10:13 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B> Brian=20
  Stark<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>=20
  dl-Cougar<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> =
RE: Just=20
  wondering</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for =
looking=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Too bad though, this =
Chip has some=20
  very different sequence issues, and I would have loved to get that =
working on=20
  the Bobcat first.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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Tahoma"> Brian=20
  Stark<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thu =
5/3/2007=20
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  Nadzam<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>=20
  dl-Cougar<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> =
RE: Just=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Unfortunately, this=20
  is not an option since the 2432 is not pin-compatible with the 2312 on =

  Bobcat.&nbsp; Alternatively, we could look at getting a 2432 HBA and =
then plug=20
  it into a desktop machine that supports =
PCI-e.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
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    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
    face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"> Bill=20
    Nadzam <BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Wednesday,=20
    May 02, 2007 4:39 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
    Brian Stark<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>=20
    dl-Cougar<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Just=20
    wondering</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is there any way to =
place the=20
    ISP2432 on the Bobcat =
motherboard?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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the new=20
    QLogic bring up. Even if I had to limit the transfer to=20
    =
1GB.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></B=
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