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Subject: RE: Initial Configuration Setup
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:40:13 -0800
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From: "Charissa Willard" <charissa.willard@onstor.com>
To: "Sudheesh Nair" <sudheesh.nair@onstor.com>
Cc: "Brian DeForest" <brian.deforest@onstor.com>,
	"Tim Gardner" <tim.gardner@onstor.com>,
	"Andy Sharp" <andy.sharp@onstor.com>

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Sudheesh,

The issue with using a default IP address is the problems that occur =
when that address is already used by another device on a network (as you =
have had experience with in the past). If the filer is directly =
connected to a laptop/pc using a crossover Ethernet cable, we may want =
to use a default IP address for this case (and only this case). I'll =
open this up to a wider audience to discuss this scenario.

-Charissa

-----Original Message-----
From: Sudheesh Nair
Sent: Wed 7/11/2007 2:47 PM
To: Charissa Willard
Cc: Narayan Venkat
Subject: RE: Initial Configuration Setup
=20
Charissa

=20

I don't think we you are addressing my concerns 2 and 3. My question is =
why don't we want to do default IP? I am at loss here and don't like the =
DHCP option.=20

=20

Regards=20
Sudheesh=20

From: Charissa Willard=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:28 PM
To: Sudheesh Nair
Cc: Narayan Venkat
Subject: RE: Initial Configuration Setup

=20

Sudheesh,

=20

We will rely on manual allocation for the DHCP server. This requires =
that the customer manually enter an IP address and the filer's MAC =
address in the DHCP server. During the boot process, the dhclient =
running on the filer will send a DHCPDISCOVER request to obtain its IP =
address, etc. Therefore, the customer will already know the IP address. =
This is the same thing NetApp does.

=20

-Charissa

=20

________________________________

From: Sudheesh Nair=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:49 AM
To: Charissa Willard
Cc: Narayan Venkat
Subject: RE: Initial Configuration Setup

=20

I am in favor of default IP over DHCP for the following reasons

=20

1.       We don't have an LCD display to find out the IP like other =
devices do

2.       Most of the time, until the initial configuration is done, we =
will not be part of a network. Sometimes ,we configure the system in one =
network which may just have a cross connected laptop

3.       A number of times, we don't have access to network on the day =
one, but have the storage ready to go. We would like to have the system =
come up and read to test storage connection and not have to use serial =
cables for config

=20

Please let me know what were the reasons for opting DHCP over this

=20

Regards=20
Sudheesh=20

From: Charissa Willard=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:16 AM
To: Sudheesh Nair
Subject: FW: Initial Configuration Setup

=20

Sudheesh,

=20

Jonathan thinks we need to ship an Ethernet cable with the box to =
support initial configuration using the DHCP client approach. However, =
when we use this approach a customer may use the same cable used to =
connect the mgmt port to the network. Also, if an SE is doing the =
installation, they would normally carry this cable with them. If we do =
need a cable to ship with the box, I will need to start the process =
rolling. Please let me know your thoughts on this.

=20

Thanks,

Charissa

=20

________________________________

From: Charissa Willard=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:10 PM
To: Eric Barrett; Huy Duong; Bill Duffy
Subject: Initial Configuration Setup

=20

Guys,

=20

We decided that we will use the DHCP Client approach for initial =
configuration. We also decided not to use a default IP address at all. =
The fallback for the DHCP Client approach will be running rc.initial the =
way we do now using a serial cable.=20

=20

Jonathan asked me to get information on the Ethernet cable setup for =
initial configuration. For example, would the cable be directly =
connected to one of the SC ports, connected to a hub or a switch? Do you =
connect the filers in a cluster and then configure them? Can you guys =
let me know what a typical customer setup would be for a single node and =
a HA setup?=20

=20

Are there any other requirements that need to be added to this document?

=20

Thanks,

Charissa



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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sudheesh,<BR>
<BR>
The issue with using a default IP address is the problems that occur =
when that address is already used by another device on a network (as you =
have had experience with in the past). If the filer is directly =
connected to a laptop/pc using a crossover Ethernet cable, we may want =
to use a default IP address for this case (and only this case). I'll =
open this up to a wider audience to discuss this scenario.<BR>
<BR>
-Charissa<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: Sudheesh Nair<BR>
Sent: Wed 7/11/2007 2:47 PM<BR>
To: Charissa Willard<BR>
Cc: Narayan Venkat<BR>
Subject: RE: Initial Configuration Setup<BR>
<BR>
Charissa<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
I don't think we you are addressing my concerns 2 and 3. My question is =
why don't we want to do default IP? I am at loss here and don't like the =
DHCP option.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Regards<BR>
Sudheesh<BR>
<BR>
From: Charissa Willard<BR>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:28 PM<BR>
To: Sudheesh Nair<BR>
Cc: Narayan Venkat<BR>
Subject: RE: Initial Configuration Setup<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Sudheesh,<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
We will rely on manual allocation for the DHCP server. This requires =
that the customer manually enter an IP address and the filer's MAC =
address in the DHCP server. During the boot process, the dhclient =
running on the filer will send a DHCPDISCOVER request to obtain its IP =
address, etc. Therefore, the customer will already know the IP address. =
This is the same thing NetApp does.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
-Charissa<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
________________________________<BR>
<BR>
From: Sudheesh Nair<BR>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:49 AM<BR>
To: Charissa Willard<BR>
Cc: Narayan Venkat<BR>
Subject: RE: Initial Configuration Setup<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
I am in favor of default IP over DHCP for the following reasons<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We don't have an LCD display to =
find out the IP like other devices do<BR>
<BR>
2.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Most of the time, until the =
initial configuration is done, we will not be part of a network. =
Sometimes ,we configure the system in one network which may just have a =
cross connected laptop<BR>
<BR>
3.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A number of times, we don't have =
access to network on the day one, but have the storage ready to go. We =
would like to have the system come up and read to test storage =
connection and not have to use serial cables for config<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Please let me know what were the reasons for opting DHCP over this<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Regards<BR>
Sudheesh<BR>
<BR>
From: Charissa Willard<BR>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:16 AM<BR>
To: Sudheesh Nair<BR>
Subject: FW: Initial Configuration Setup<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Sudheesh,<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Jonathan thinks we need to ship an Ethernet cable with the box to =
support initial configuration using the DHCP client approach. However, =
when we use this approach a customer may use the same cable used to =
connect the mgmt port to the network. Also, if an SE is doing the =
installation, they would normally carry this cable with them. If we do =
need a cable to ship with the box, I will need to start the process =
rolling. Please let me know your thoughts on this.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Thanks,<BR>
<BR>
Charissa<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
________________________________<BR>
<BR>
From: Charissa Willard<BR>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:10 PM<BR>
To: Eric Barrett; Huy Duong; Bill Duffy<BR>
Subject: Initial Configuration Setup<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Guys,<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
We decided that we will use the DHCP Client approach for initial =
configuration. We also decided not to use a default IP address at all. =
The fallback for the DHCP Client approach will be running rc.initial the =
way we do now using a serial cable.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Jonathan asked me to get information on the Ethernet cable setup for =
initial configuration. For example, would the cable be directly =
connected to one of the SC ports, connected to a hub or a switch? Do you =
connect the filers in a cluster and then configure them? Can you guys =
let me know what a typical customer setup would be for a single node and =
a HA setup?<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Are there any other requirements that need to be added to this =
document?<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Thanks,<BR>
<BR>
Charissa<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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