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Subject: RE: invitation to walk in my shoes
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:47:00 -0800
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From: "Ken Renshaw" <ken.renshaw@onstor.com>
To: "Andy Sharp" <andy.sharp@onstor.com>

Hi Andy, hope things are well.=20

I do have an easy way for you to peruse all changes to the sendmail =
directory since it's initial open source checkin using p4v. You only =
have to type one path and then it's all point-and-click ;)

Please let me know when you have time and I'd be happy to cruise by.

Thanks,

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Sharp=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:50 PM
To: Ken Renshaw
Subject: Re: invitation to walk in my shoes

Obviojusly we'll have to pick it up later, but the list isn't a gui,
and this is too time consumi ng to do by hand.  point and clicjk,
that's my motto!

> Hey Andy, I was just wondering if that list met your needs and if you
> still want to meet and go through anything. I wasn't trying to blow
> you off, just figured it more productive for you at the moment if I
> gave you the list and how I came up with it.
>=20
> Have a good one,
>=20
> -Ken
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Renshaw=20
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:06 PM
> To: Andy Sharp
> Subject: RE: invitation to walk in my shoes
>=20
> Sure, no problem Andy. Here is the list of all relevant changes for
> you...I'll still be happy to sit down and go through anything with
> you on Tuesday. All I did here was:
>=20
> p4 changes //depot/*/nfx-tree/code/sendmail/... | egrep -i -v
> "(inte|branch|merge|kenr|larry|pull)" > sendmail.changes.out
>=20
> The first command lists all changes to the sendmail directory in
> every single branch, and the egrep command is just to prune out all
> the branch/merge/etc. changes leaving just the real coding changes,
> listed here. The bottom one is the initial checkin of the sendmail
> sources.
>=20
> Change 24269 on 2007/06/18 by timg@timg-work 'sm-chassis porting
> changes Fixe' Change 23642 on 2007/04/19 by maximk@maximk-13 'Linux
> ssc compilation fixes.   ' Change 23215 on 2007/03/21 by
> jong@jong-jong-cifs 'Change cluster code to assume n' Change 22696 on
> 2007/02/12 by jong@jong-jong-cifs 'Implement GNS/CIFS-Share ACLs. '
> Change 22484 on 2007/01/22 by jong@jong-jong-cifs 'GNS Unit
> tests.        Reviewed' Change 22280 on 2007/01/02 by
> perforce@yuvarani-delorean '       Fix for defect TED000159' Change
> 21651 on 2006/10/19 by perforce@yuvarani-SUSTAIN '       Fix for
> defect TED000159' Change 19270 on 2006/06/19 by
> briand@briand-fb-kerberos 'rewrite prototype LDAP API=E2=80=99s ' =
Change
> 19232 on 2006/06/14 by edk@edk-r131work 'Changes for defect 14038,
> speci' Change 19059 on 2006/06/06 by nagendras@nags_ldap
> 'Implementation of async LDAP li' Change 18426 on 2006/04/25 by
> briand@briand-fb-kerberos 'initial LDAP prototype checkin ' Change
> 16704 on 2005/12/13 by medim@r13n_12472 'Fixed for bug 12472 Modified
> se' Change 16323 on 2005/10/12 by nitinb@nitinb-p4 '   enclose a
> statement under if' Change 15359 on 2005/05/18 by nitinb@nitinb-p4
> 'Change elog level to debug. not' Change 14957 on 2005/04/11 by
> nitinb@nitinb-p4 'removed dependency of sendmail ' Change 14085 on
> 2005/01/20 by nitinb@nitinb-p4 'added document detailing new ch'
> Change 13745 on 2004/12/14 by syen@syen-dw121 'Modify sendmail to do
> the follo' Change 13556 on 2004/11/24 by nitinb@nitinb-p4 'use the
> hostname of the filer i' Change 13508 on 2004/11/17 by
> nitinb@nitinb-p4 'fix for bug #9593 initialize dn' Change 13195 on
> 2004/10/26 by nitinb@nitinb-p4 'do not let sendmail shut off SI'
> Change 12665 on 2004/09/13 by nitinb@nitinb-p4 'use nfxdns_res_init()
> instead o' Change 12549 on 2004/09/06 by nitinb@nitinb-p4 'Fix for
> 8863; Initialize rmc wi' Change 12501 on 2004/09/02 by
> xiaobingz@xiaobingz-r120-1 '   Fix for bug 8590. I removed ' Change
> 12158 on 2004/08/16 by ianb@ianb-r12-4 'This change adds an assert in
> r' Change 12091 on 2004/08/11 by nitinb@nitinb-p4 'fixes bug # we now
> restrict the' Change 11758 on 2004/07/16 by kirans@kirans-compile2
> '   Fix for bug 8286.    nfxnis_' Change 11465 on 2004/06/21 by
> kirans@kirans-work2 '   Fix for bug 8101 - a MF bug ' Change 11041 on
> 2004/05/13 by swang@swang-r1-2-work 'convert cluster messages to rmc'
> Change 11003 on 2004/05/11 by nitinb@nitinb-p4 'make sendmail run as
> a daemon c' Change 10883 on 2004/05/01 by nitinb@nitinb-p4 'sendmail
> was calling res_xxx() ' Change 10877 on 2004/04/30 by
> nitinb@nitinb-p4 'fix to allow sendmail to work w' Change 10852 on
> 2004/04/29 by nitinb@nitinb-p4 'adding sendmail to p4 tree revi'
>=20
> If you wanted to go one further and generate a file with all the
> changes and diffs to peruse you could just do something like this:
>=20
> p4 changes //depot/*/nfx-tree/code/sendmail/... | egrep -i -v
> "(inte|branch|merge|kenr|larry|pull|adding sendmail)" | awk '{ print
> $2 }' | xargs p4 describe -s > sendmail.diffs.out
>=20
> That egrep strips out the initial source checkin since it's not of
> much use to you I'd imagine. If you need anything else at all just
> let me know. I imagine there are ways to use the p4v visual tool for
> this stuff, but as an ex-sysadmin I just find the command line easier
> and quicker.
>=20
> Have a good one Andy.
>=20
> -Ken
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Sharp
> Sent: Fri 8/31/2007 1:27 PM
> To: Ken Renshaw
> Subject: Re: invitation to walk in my shoes
> =20
> It pertains to making the equivalent changes in exim4 (a drop in
> sendmail replacement we are using on linux) that we have made in
> sendmail.  So, researching those changes and understanding them so
> that they can be equivalently made to a different, non-diffable,
> source base.
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
> a
>=20
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:23:05 -0700 "Ken Renshaw"
> <ken.renshaw@onstor.com> wrote:
>=20
> > Hi Andy, I'd be happy to. This afternoon I'm out, but anytime after
> > the weekend is good. Since Monday is Labor Day how about Tuesday
> > morning, 10 or 11, or anytime you prefer is fine with me.
> >=20
> > Just so I don't walk in blind, is this pertaining to archeology of
> > tracking down changes, or more of a how/why/WTF does this work kind
> > of thing?
> >=20
> > Thanks, and have a great weekend Andy.
> >=20
> > -Ken
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andy Sharp
> > To: Ken Renshaw
> > Sent: Fri Aug 31 11:53:52 2007
> > Subject: invitation to walk in my shoes
> >=20
> > Hi Ken,
> >=20
> > I've got a situation that would be perfect for me to show you what
> > software dev needs from its SCM tool, and possibly perfect for you
> > to show me how to get it, if possible.  When would be a good time
> > for you to be able to sit down with me for a good 30 minutes or
> > more?
> >=20
> > Thanks,
> >=20
> > a
>=20
