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From: "Tim Gardner" <tim.gardner@onstor.com>
To: "Chris Vandever" <chris.vandever@onstor.com>,
	"Andy Sharp" <andy.sharp@onstor.com>,
	"Dennis Arellano" <dennis.arellano@onstor.com>
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	"Sandrine Boulanger" <sandrine.boulanger@onstor.com>,
	"dl-Cougar Core Team" <dl-CougarCore@onstor.com>

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Yes, do them all at one time so long as that time is AFTER COUGAR SHIPS!

________________________________

From: Chris Vandever
Sent: Wed 3/26/2008 5:50 PM
To: Andy Sharp; Dennis Arellano
Cc: Paul Hammer; Sandrine Boulanger; dl-Cougar Core Team
Subject: RE: Cluster CLI Commands



Thanks, Andy.

The cluster commands changed from using the term "filer" to "nasgateway" =
in R1.3.0.  The exact change was change list #17228, which removed all =
instances of "filer" and "san filer" from the CLI.  That touched an =
amazing 181 files, just in the CLI.  (I was expecting maybe a dozen, =
including the help text, so I was way off!)  We've added new CLI =
commands and output since then, not to mention the WebUI and EMRS.

If we are going to change the terminology, we need to be very clear on =
exactly what we are changing from and to, and how extensive it will be.  =
It would be ideal to get all of these changes done at one time.

ChrisV

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Sharp
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:36 PM
To: Dennis Arellano
Cc: Paul Hammer; Sandrine Boulanger; dl-Cougar Core Team; Chris Vandever
Subject: Re: Cluster CLI Commands

Please make sure Chris is on this thread as she has a lot of specific
knowledge here, not to mention that the probability of any code
changing is quite low if she's not on board ~:^)

Cheers,

a

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:31:32 -0700 "Dennis Arellano"
<dennis.arellano@onstor.com> wrote:

> According to Josh's terminology doc, the Cougar is a dual-node NAS
> Gateway and the NAS Blades are nodes in the cluster context.
>
> Narayan, please provide closure on this. I can't go much further in
> editing the Cluster Configuration Guide until the terminology is
> finalized.
>
> Thanks, Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Hammer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:13 PM
> To: Sandrine Boulanger; Andy Sharp; Dennis Arellano
> Cc: dl-Cougar Core Team
> Subject: RE: Cluster CLI Commands
>
> I believe that with Cougar we are going to refer to the product as a
> filer and not a gateway. Anyhow, this one is marketing's call.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandrine Boulanger
> Sent: 2008-03-26 17:07
> To: Andy Sharp; Dennis Arellano
> Cc: dl-Cougar Core Team
> Subject: RE: Cluster CLI Commands
>
> The commands should be the same for Bobcat or Cougar, just because
> Cougar has 2 boards in the same chassis does not change anything. I
> thing we can keep it as it is "NAS Gateway", too many changes for not
> much improvement if we change it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Sharp
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:00 PM
> To: Dennis Arellano
> Cc: dl-Cougar Core Team
> Subject: Re: Cluster CLI Commands
>
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:55:14 -0700 "Dennis Arellano"
> <dennis.arellano@onstor.com> wrote:
>
> > In editing the Cluster Configuration Guide, I came across a
> > reference to the cluster add filer command. In looking at my filer
> > and the CR that command no longer exists. It would appear that the
> > cluster add nasgateway command took its place.
> >
> >=20
> >
> > However, in the Cougar context we are adding a node to a cluster.
> > Should these commands be renamed in 4.0 to cluster add node, cluster
> > delete node, cluster move node?
>
> I believe so.
>
> > Furthermore, should the term "NAS Gateway group" change to "node
> > group?"
>
> We might want to take a vote on that one.



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<P><FONT size=3D2>Thanks, Andy.<BR><BR>The cluster commands changed from =
using the term "filer" to "nasgateway" in R1.3.0.&nbsp; The exact change =
was change list #17228, which removed all instances of "filer" and "san =
filer" from the CLI.&nbsp; That touched an amazing 181 files, just in =
the CLI.&nbsp; (I was expecting maybe a dozen, including the help text, =
so I was way off!)&nbsp; We've added new CLI commands and output since =
then, not to mention the WebUI and EMRS.<BR><BR>If we are going to =
change the terminology, we need to be very clear on exactly what we are =
changing from and to, and how extensive it will be.&nbsp; It would be =
ideal to get all of these changes done at one =
time.<BR><BR>ChrisV<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Andy =
Sharp<BR>Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:36 PM<BR>To: Dennis =
Arellano<BR>Cc: Paul Hammer; Sandrine Boulanger; dl-Cougar Core Team; =
Chris Vandever<BR>Subject: Re: Cluster CLI Commands<BR><BR>Please make =
sure Chris is on this thread as she has a lot of specific<BR>knowledge =
here, not to mention that the probability of any code<BR>changing is =
quite low if she's not on board ~:^)<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>a<BR><BR>On =
Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:31:32 -0700 "Dennis =
Arellano"<BR>&lt;dennis.arellano@onstor.com&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; =
According to Josh's terminology doc, the Cougar is a dual-node =
NAS<BR>&gt; Gateway and the NAS Blades are nodes in the cluster =
context.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Narayan, please provide closure on this. I =
can't go much further in<BR>&gt; editing the Cluster Configuration Guide =
until the terminology is<BR>&gt; finalized.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Thanks, =
Dennis<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: Paul =
Hammer<BR>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:13 PM<BR>&gt; To: =
Sandrine Boulanger; Andy Sharp; Dennis Arellano<BR>&gt; Cc: dl-Cougar =
Core Team<BR>&gt; Subject: RE: Cluster CLI Commands<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I =
believe that with Cougar we are going to refer to the product as =
a<BR>&gt; filer and not a gateway. Anyhow, this one is marketing's =
call.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: Sandrine =
Boulanger<BR>&gt; Sent: 2008-03-26 17:07<BR>&gt; To: Andy Sharp; Dennis =
Arellano<BR>&gt; Cc: dl-Cougar Core Team<BR>&gt; Subject: RE: Cluster =
CLI Commands<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; The commands should be the same for Bobcat =
or Cougar, just because<BR>&gt; Cougar has 2 boards in the same chassis =
does not change anything. I<BR>&gt; thing we can keep it as it is "NAS =
Gateway", too many changes for not<BR>&gt; much improvement if we change =
it.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: Andy =
Sharp<BR>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:00 PM<BR>&gt; To: Dennis =
Arellano<BR>&gt; Cc: dl-Cougar Core Team<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: Cluster =
CLI Commands<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:55:14 -0700 "Dennis =
Arellano"<BR>&gt; &lt;dennis.arellano@onstor.com&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; In editing the Cluster Configuration Guide, =
I came across a<BR>&gt; &gt; reference to the cluster add filer command. =
In looking at my filer<BR>&gt; &gt; and the CR that command no longer =
exists. It would appear that the<BR>&gt; &gt; cluster add nasgateway =
command took its place.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; However, in the Cougar context we are adding a node to =
a cluster.<BR>&gt; &gt; Should these commands be renamed in 4.0 to =
cluster add node, cluster<BR>&gt; &gt; delete node, cluster move =
node?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I believe so.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Furthermore, =
should the term "NAS Gateway group" change to "node<BR>&gt; &gt; =
group?"<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; We might want to take a vote on that =
one.<BR></FONT></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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