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Subject: RE: OnStor and FC 7 & 8 still incompatible
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From: "Eric Barrett" <eric.barrett@onstor.com>
To: "Michael Tracy (Glasshouse)" <mtracy@css.glasshouse.com>,
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Michael,
=20
I've seen this problem on various newer Linux OSes (FC, Ubuntu, etc.)
Try having them mount with "sec=3Dsys".  This is normally the default, =
but
something in the security negotiation in Linux has recently broken, or
it has gotten more strict and we're somehow not compliant -- either way,
explicitly adding this flag should get them working again.
=20
The problem is that, when no security style is used, mounts are done as
sec=3Dnone, meaning all users are anonymous, meaning everybody acts as =
UID
65534/GID65534 (nobody/nobody).  That's why only world-writable
directories are usable.  If they were to touch a file in those
world-writable directories, they'd find them owned by nobody/nobody.
=20
If that does NOT work, we'll need a trace to make further progress, but
I'd bet a dozen donuts it's the problem.
=20

________________________________

From: Michael Tracy (Glasshouse)=20
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:48 AM
To: John Rogers; dl-cstech
Subject: Re: OnStor and FC 7 & 8 still incompatible


From the old case I see nfs share issues with Fedora 7

The observed symptom is that on this box (our only F7 box accessing the
NAS right now)=20

- nfs shares from the NAS (mounted manually or through autofs) mount
apparently normally=20
- world readable/writeable files and directories work normally=20
- all files list permissions correctly=20
- user or group controlled files get permissions denied on attempted
access by users who should be authorized.=20

These same ONStor nfs exports work correctly (with expected group and
user permissions) on all other hosts.=20

Non ONStor nfs exports can be accessed normally (with expected group and
user permissions) from the F7 client (and other hosts).=20

Shares are mounted with nfs v3 and seem normal. Fiddling with mount
options has not made a huge difference so far.=20

nsswitch.conf appears to be correct, the ONStor logs are not showing any
obviously relevant errors, the client logs don't seem to be complaining,
and we're generally puzzled.=20

/proc/mounts shows=20

/etc/autofs/map_unix_vs_rhat_64 /unix_vs autofs
rw,fd=3D10,pgrp=3D24380,timeout=3D300,minproto=3D5,maxproto=3D5,indirect =
0 0=20
unix_vs:/unix/export/linux_64/local /unix_vs/local nfs
rw,vers=3D3,rsize=3D4096,wsize=3D4096,hard,proto=3Dtcp,timeo=3D600,retran=
s=3D2,sec=3Dn
ull,addr=3Dunix_vs 0 0=20
unix_vs:/unix/home /unix_vs/home nfs
rw,vers=3D3,rsize=3D4096,wsize=3D4096,hard,proto=3Dtcp,timeo=3D600,retran=
s=3D2,sec=3Dn
ull,addr=3Dunix_vs 0 0=20

all of which is consistent with other hosts and local norms
The problem turns out to be specific to nfs-utils-1:1.1.0-4.fc7.x86_64
interacting with ONStor nfs shares.=20

The work-around is to roll back to NFSUtils
nfs-utils-1.0.12-4.fc7.x86_64.


	----- Original Message -----=20
	From: John Rogers <mailto:john.rogers@onstor.com> =20
	To: Michael Tracy (Glasshouse)
<mailto:mtracy@css.glasshouse.com>  ; dl-cstech
<mailto:dl-cstech@onstor.com> =20
	Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 12:42 PM
	Subject: RE: OnStor and FC 7 & 8 still incompatible


	What is the problem exactly that they are having?

	=20

=09
________________________________


	From: Michael Tracy (Glasshouse)=20
	Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:22 AM
	To: dl-cstech
	Subject: Re: OnStor and FC 7 & 8 still incompatible

	=20

	Anyone familiar with this?

	=20

		----- Original Message -----=20

		From: Michael Tracy <mailto:mtracy@css.glasshouse.com> =20

		To: DL-CStech <mailto:dl-cstech@onstor.com> =20

		Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:32 PM

		Subject: OnStor and FC 7 & 8 still incompatible

		=20

		Hi all

		7040 - AER

		=20

		Per customer

=09
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

		Back in case 6210 we eventually found that the problem
was a reproducible compatibility problem between the newer NFS patches
in FC7 and OnStor. Wease e were swamped at the time and opted to revert
our FC7 systems to the original FC7 release from our older disk set. We
figured that either OnStor or Fedora would sort this out by the time we
needed to press forward on upgrading systems.=20
	=09
		However, we have a need to get a system to FC8 and FC8
will not work with OnStor. This is a clean install to a generic Dell
system without doing anything very fancy to it and is reproducible (by
doing a generic FC install) on another system as well.=20
	=09
		Do recent EverOn versions address authentication
problems with NFS under FC 7/8? We are reluctant to upgrade randomly
until we\'ve ascertained that such an upgrade will specifically address
this problem and that it will not break our backups (see case 5292).=20
	=09
		We have one system unusable at the moment though we have
the user on a loaner and are rebuilding it to an earlier rev to get him
going for now, but we cannot keep building systems under FC6/first rev
FC7 for long.=20
=09
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

		=20

		I can't find anything on this. Not in the compatibility
matrix.  Any help here?

		=20

		Michael


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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D338305317-01022008><FONT =
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size=3D2>Michael,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D338305317-01022008><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D338305317-01022008><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>I've seen this problem on various newer Linux OSes (FC, Ubuntu, =

etc.)&nbsp; Try having them mount with "sec=3Dsys".&nbsp; This is =
normally the=20
default, but something in the security negotiation in Linux has recently =
broken,=20
or it has gotten more strict and we're somehow not compliant -- either =
way,=20
explicitly adding this flag should get them working =
again.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D338305317-01022008><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D338305317-01022008><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>The problem is that, when no security style is used, mounts are =
done as=20
sec=3Dnone, meaning all users are anonymous, meaning everybody acts as =
UID=20
65534/GID65534 (nobody/nobody).&nbsp; That's why only world-writable =
directories=20
are usable.&nbsp; If they were to touch a file in those world-writable=20
directories, they'd find them owned by =
nobody/nobody.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D338305317-01022008><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D338305317-01022008><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>If that does NOT work, we'll need a trace to make further =
progress, but=20
I'd bet a dozen donuts it's the problem.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
class=3D338305317-01022008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Michael Tracy (Glasshouse)=20
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 01, 2008 9:48 AM<BR><B>To:</B> John =
Rogers;=20
dl-cstech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: OnStor and FC 7 &amp; 8 still=20
incompatible<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From the old case I see </FONT>nfs =
share issues=20
with Fedora 7<BR><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff>The observed symptom is that =
on this=20
box (our only F7 box accessing the NAS right now) <BR><BR>- nfs shares =
from the=20
NAS (mounted manually or through autofs) mount apparently normally <BR>- =
world=20
readable/writeable files and directories work normally <BR>- all files =
list=20
permissions correctly <BR>- user or group controlled files get =
permissions=20
denied on attempted access by users who should be authorized. =
<BR><BR>These same=20
ONStor nfs exports work correctly (with expected group and user =
permissions) on=20
all other hosts. <BR><BR>Non ONStor nfs exports can be accessed normally =
(with=20
expected group and user permissions) from the F7 client (and other =
hosts).=20
<BR><BR>Shares are mounted with nfs v3 and seem normal. Fiddling with =
mount=20
options has not made a huge difference so far. <BR><BR>nsswitch.conf =
appears to=20
be correct, the ONStor logs are not showing any obviously relevant =
errors, the=20
client logs don't seem to be complaining, and we're generally puzzled.=20
<BR><BR>/proc/mounts shows <BR><BR>/etc/autofs/map_unix_vs_rhat_64 =
/unix_vs=20
autofs =
rw,fd=3D10,pgrp=3D24380,timeout=3D300,minproto=3D5,maxproto=3D5,indirect =
0 0=20
<BR>unix_vs:/unix/export/linux_64/local /unix_vs/local nfs=20
rw,vers=3D3,rsize=3D4096,wsize=3D4096,hard,proto=3Dtcp,timeo=3D600,retran=
s=3D2,sec=3Dnull,addr=3Dunix_vs=20
0 0 <BR>unix_vs:/unix/home /unix_vs/home nfs=20
rw,vers=3D3,rsize=3D4096,wsize=3D4096,hard,proto=3Dtcp,timeo=3D600,retran=
s=3D2,sec=3Dnull,addr=3Dunix_vs=20
0 0 <BR><BR>all of which is consistent with other hosts and local=20
norms</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>The problem turns out to be specific to=20
nfs-utils-1:1.1.0-4.fc7.x86_64 interacting with ONStor nfs shares. =
<BR><BR>The=20
work-around is to roll back to NFSUtils=20
nfs-utils-1.0.12-4.fc7.x86_64.</FONT><BR></DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djohn.rogers@onstor.com =
href=3D"mailto:john.rogers@onstor.com">John=20
  Rogers</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmtracy@css.glasshouse.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:mtracy@css.glasshouse.com">Michael Tracy =
(Glasshouse)</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Ddl-cstech@onstor.com =
href=3D"mailto:dl-cstech@onstor.com">dl-cstech</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 01, 2008 =
12:42=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: OnStor and FC 7 =
&amp; 8=20
  still incompatible</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What is the =
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  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"> Michael=20
  Tracy (Glasshouse) <BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>=20
  Friday, February 01, 2008 9:22 AM<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> dl-cstech<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: OnStor and FC 7 =
&amp; 8=20
  still incompatible</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyone familiar with=20
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    <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT =
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    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
    face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
    title=3Ddl-cstech@onstor.com =
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    <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
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Arial">=20
    Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:32 =
PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
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    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
    face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> OnStor=20
    and FC 7 &amp; 8 still =
incompatible<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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    <DIV id=3Dcas15_ileinner>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi=20
    all</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">7040 -=20
    AER</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Per=20
    customer</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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/SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Back in =
case 6210=20
    we eventually found that the problem was a reproducible =
compatibility=20
    problem between the newer NFS patches in FC7 and OnStor. Wease e =
were=20
    swamped at the time and opted to revert our FC7 systems to the =
original FC7=20
    release from our older disk set. We figured that either OnStor or =
Fedora=20
    would sort this out by the time we needed to press forward on =
upgrading=20
    systems. <BR><BR>However, we have a need to get a system to FC8 and =
FC8 will=20
    not work with OnStor. This is a clean install to a generic Dell =
system=20
    without doing anything very fancy to it and is reproducible (by =
doing a=20
    generic FC install) on another system as well. <BR><BR>Do recent =
EverOn=20
    versions address authentication problems with NFS under FC 7/8? We =
are=20
    reluctant to upgrade randomly until we\'ve ascertained that such an =
upgrade=20
    will specifically address this problem and that it will not break =
our=20
    backups (see case 5292). <BR><BR>We have one system unusable at the =
moment=20
    though we have the user on a loaner and are rebuilding it to an =
earlier rev=20
    to get him going for now, but we cannot keep building systems under=20
    FC6/first rev FC7 for long.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
    =
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can't find anything =
on this.=20
    Not in the compatibility matrix.&nbsp; Any help=20
    here?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Michael</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV=
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