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Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:13:55 -0700
From: Andrew Sharp <andy.sharp@onstor.com>
To: Patrick Haverty <patrick.haverty@onstor.com>
Subject: Re: USB Install
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On Fri, 1 May 2009 16:07:58 -0700 Patrick Haverty
<patrick.haverty@onstor.com> wrote:

> Okay, I got it to boot to the GRUB menu for installing, but it seems
> like the installation file still wants to look at the CD rom as the
> source, or something like that.  What OS did you install, from USB,
> on ripper?
> 
> Maybe they can just make a build with the Nexenta installation
> looking to the USB instead of some stupid CD rom place.  :)

The root filesystem and or boot device definition needs to point to the
USB stick rather than the CDROM.

> Hmmm... Can we make an ubuntu based Leopard...  That seems to work
> just fine, installing from a USB.

Look at their menu.lst file to see how they refer to the USB stick as
the boot device and possibly the root filesystem.  Some analogy of that
should work.  The root filesystem is probably compiled into the kernel
so might not be relevant.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Sharp 
> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 12:12 PM
> To: Patrick Haverty
> Subject: Re: USB Install
> 
> On Fri, 1 May 2009 10:07:54 -0700 Patrick Haverty
> <patrick.haverty@onstor.com> wrote:
> 
> > I agree it should work, but so far none of my attempts have been 
> > successful.  Just to see if I can make any OS boot from a USB
> > stick, I'm going to try the Ubuntu "USB Startup Disk Creator".
> > Also, during some of the previous attempts I did have the stick in
> > place, and can see some activity to it during boot, but it still
> > doesn't show up in the BIOS as a boot option.  I'm going to play
> > around with it just a little more.  It's frustrating, but kinda fun.
> 
> I'm quite confident the ubuntu thing will work and demonstrate the
> way.  Just to let you know, my workstation, the mighty-mighty ripper,
> I started by USB boot/install, and if I recall, next to nothing had
> to be done in the BIOS to get it to work.  Fairly modern BIOSes seem
> to be geared for it as default behavior.
> 
> Happy hunting!
> 
> > Cheers. 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andy Sharp
> > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:40 PM
> > To: Patrick Haverty
> > Subject: Re: USB Install
> > 
> > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:31:59 -0700 Patrick Haverty 
> > <patrick.haverty@onstor.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I haven't figured out how to make a Slowaris bootable USB, but it 
> > > doesn't look like the hardware would allow booting to USB.  At
> > > least I don't see that option in the boot order settings in the
> > > BIOS. Drats, foiled again.
> > 
> > No, it will work.  You might have to specify that the USB will
> > operate in legacy mode or something like that, but I'm pretty sure
> > that modern systems like this don't even need that.  You might have
> > to have a stick in the USB port for that option to show up in the
> > BIOS.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andy Sharp
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:00 PM
> > > To: Patrick Haverty
> > > Subject: Re: USB Install
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:51:38 -0700 Patrick Haverty 
> > > <patrick.haverty@onstor.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Interesting, the running live part.  There are internal USB
> > > > ports, probably for just that type of thing.  I have USB drive
> > > > I can try the USB install from.  Any tips, from experience, on
> > > > making a bootable USB run an ISO file?  I'll check around on
> > > > Google.
> > > 
> > > The first trick is to make a bootable USB.  Put the ISO on it,
> > > and have it mounted in loopback fashion, and run the install from
> > > there. That's how it works for such things on Linux.  It will be
> > > the same for Slowaris.  But I don't know how to make a bootable
> > > USB stick for Slowaris.
> > > 
> > > Go for it!  Should be cool.
> > > 
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andy Sharp
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:48 PM
> > > > To: Patrick Haverty
> > > > Subject: Re: USB Install
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:38:17 -0700 Patrick Haverty 
> > > > <patrick.haverty@onstor.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hello Andy,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I know you have many other things bouncing around in your
> > > > > head head, but I was wondering if you think it might be
> > > > > possible to make a bootable USB drive that could be used for
> > > > > the Pantera LS OS installation.  If so, would that method of
> > > > > install be any faster than from a CD?  Whatdayathink?
> > > > 
> > > > Absolutely, completely possible.  As for faster, that would
> > > > depend on slowaris, the USB disk used, the speed of the CD/DVD
> > > > drive, etc... ~:^)
> > > > 
> > > > IMHO, that's what they should be doing, since CDs and DVDs are 
> > > > completely obsolete.  But what do I know.  I don't even think
> > > > we should have hard disks in the head at all, it should be
> > > > running "live" with a unionfs or similar.  We don't have such
> > > > things in EverON based appliances....
