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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:48:38 -0800
From: Andrew Sharp <andy.sharp@onstor.com>
To: "Brian Stark" <brian.stark@onstor.com>
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Subject: Re: USB port on Cougar - can I get a Hail-Yeah?
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Ah well, if it's not already on the chip, I don't think it's worth
adding another chip for,  unless it's tiny and easy.  One thing I
remember from training is the moment when we were supposed to do a
"from scratch" install, which requires you connect to the serial port.
We all looked at each other and realized that there wasn't a laptop in
the room with a serial port on it.  I guess the SEs probably have a
serial dongle in their bag (at least after the first time), but it was a
bit of a moment, especially because training provides the laptops.

Cheers,

a


 On Thu, 30 Nov 2006
10:33:23 -0800 "Brian Stark" <brian.stark@onstor.com> wrote:

> We've looked at USB, primarly because it's so pervasive.  The problem
> is that to get native USB support, we have to put a fairly large chip
> down that gives us a bunch of other stuff that we don't need.  This
> then brings up the ever present issue of board space.  We also
> weren't sure how to make USB mechanically feasible in the field since
> hanging things off of the box via a USB cable or with a USB flash was
> deemed undesireable by marketing.  If the USB drive or device was
> embedded inside the chassis, that's another story.  We thought this
> may be useful for development, but it wasn't something we wanted
> customers monkeying with.
> 
> Anyway, I'll keep USB in mind since it happens that the HT-2000 has a
> companion chip called the HT-1000 that provides USB (along with a
> bunch of other stuff as mentioned above).  As we talked about the
> other night, it basically comes down to board space.
> 
> 
> Brian
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jay Michlin 
> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:20 AM
> > To: Andy Sharp; Brian Stark
> > Cc: Tim Gardner
> > Subject: RE: USB port on Cougar - can I get a Hail-Yeah?
> > 
> > Andy,
> > 
> > I don't know whether this will be hard or not, but it sounds 
> > like a great idea to me if Brian can make it come true. USB 
> > is a hugely powerful interface, and we can do all sorts of 
> > creative things with it.
> > 
> > jay 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Sharp [mailto:andy.sharp@onstor.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:07 PM
> > To: Brian Stark
> > Cc: Tim Gardner; Jay Michlin
> > Subject: USB port on Cougar - can I get a Hail-Yeah?
> > 
> > Hi Brian,
> > 
> > So here I go asking (I'm still inside my honeymoon period) 
> > for a USB port. Does the south bridge (waaay south?) chip 
> > support USB?  Or perhaps there is a bit of space on one 
> > corner of the board where a USB host adapter can be put on the PCIe.
> > 
> > One really excellent use for a USB port is utilizing 
> > transportable storage for baseline copy of mirrors.  Export 
> > the volume onto a 750GB external USB drive, hand it to FedEx, 
> > and import it on the other end, shazaam. Much easier than 
> > doing the similar thing with an array.  Of course if it's a 
> > 20TB dataset you'd have to do that 26 times ....
> > 
> > I don't recall mention of a USB port in the docs so far.  Dev 
> > could make excellent use of such a beast as well for many 
> > things.  Rescue boot from an iPod?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > a
> > 
