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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:54:18 -0700
From: Andrew Sharp <andy.sharp@onstor.com>
To: "Charissa Willard" <charissa.willard@onstor.com>
Cc: "Tim Gardner" <tim.gardner@onstor.com>
Subject: Re: [Zonda] Network initial config via WebUI -- system component
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Do we have said label on our filer giving the mac addresses of the
management ports?


On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:48:58 -0700 "Charissa Willard"
<charissa.willard@onstor.com> wrote:

> Tim,
> 
>  
> 
> This is how NetApp instructs customers to use DHCP to setup a filer.
> Is this feasible for ONStor to do. 
> 
>  
> 
> Use of DHCP with F800 series and F900 series filers for remote access 
> 
>  
> 
> Enabling Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) to assign a static
> IP address to the onboard interface (e0) of an F800 series or F900
> series filer during first-time setup enables you to use a Telnet
> client to access the filer and complete the first-time configuration
> remotely. Otherwise, you must attach a hard-wired serial console to
> the filer to complete the configuration.
> 
>  
> 
> When you use DHCP to assign an IP address to the onboard interface,
> the filer
> 
>  
> 
>     * Obtains the address from the DHCP server when the filer is
> turned on
> 
>     * Configures the onboard interface with the IP address
> 
>     * Becomes accessible to a Telnet client or the Setup Wizard
> 
>  
> 
> Caution
> 
> The DHCP server must return a static IP address for the interface. If
> the server returns a dynamic IP address, the filer displays an error
> message and continues to use the IP address permanently which can
> result in an IP address conflict if the DHCP server assigns the IP
> address dynamically to other clients from time to time.
> 
>  
> 
> TO Enable DHCP
> 
> *  Locate the label that has the MAC address for the onboard interface
> on the left side of the back of the filer. 
> 
> *  Record the MAC address in a copy of the Configuration Worksheet in
> A.
> 
> 
> *  Configure the DHCP server to return a static IP address for the
> interface based on the MAC address for the onboard interface.
> 
>  
> 
> -Charissa
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Gardner 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:41 AM
> To: Andy Sharp
> Cc: dl-Design Review
> Subject: RE: [Zonda] Network initial config via WebUI -- system
> component
> 
>  
> 
> Why don't we just do like NetApp does?
> 
> If DHCP is enabled on the network, the filer configures its SC port
> using DHCP. Admin then uses a browser to complete configuration.
> 
> If no DHCP, you have to use the console port.
> 
>  
> 
> Take a look at the netapp install docs at
> \\mightydog\docs\netapp_docs_64
> 
>  
> 
> Tim
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: Andy Sharp 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:33 AM
> 
> Cc: dl-Design Review
> 
> Subject: Re: [Zonda] Network initial config via WebUI -- system
> component
> 
>  
> 
> Again, not simple enough to implement.  We can't always stop the
> 
> customer from doing lots of stupid things to themselves.  We could run
> 
> the dhcp server only on the second interface or other things to
> 
> ammeliorate this.
> 
>  
> 
> In addition to this scheme, we can also pre-configure boxes before
> 
> shipping them to customers in some cases.  This would be a good
> 
> additional capability for ops.
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>  
> 
> a
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:13 -0700 "Jeseem S" <jeseem@onstor.com>
> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> > Hi Andy,
> 
> >      IMHO
> 
> >    The one drawback I see is if the customer plugs in the filer
> 
> > without configuring it. He will introduce a new DHCP server in the
> 
> > server farm and may potentially destablise other devices (other
> 
> > pcs/servers or phones may pick up ip from the filer's dhcp server).
> 
> > So not many administrators will accept devices which have default
> 
> > dhcp server into their network.
> 
> > 
> 
> > The alternative solution is to have default dhcp client behaviour
> > and
> 
> > if it fails to fallback to 169.254.0.0 subnet as windows pcs do
> 
> > currently. If we get a valid dhcp ip , then update dynamic dns (bind
> 
> > or windows dns) with a default name.
> 
> > 
> 
> >  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> 
> > From: Ian Brown 
> 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:57 AM
> 
> > To: Andy Sharp; Charissa Willard
> 
> > Cc: dl-Design Review
> 
> > Subject: Re: [Zonda] Network initial config via WebUI -- system
> 
> > component
> 
> > 
> 
> > Andy, it would be even easier if you add support for boujour which  
> 
> > will take your idea to the next level and make it so you don't
> > have  
> 
> > to plug your laptop's ethernet cable directly into the gateway,
> > but  
> 
> > will allow you to do the same thing by just plugging the gateway  
> 
> > directly into the network as it would be normally would be, and
> 
> > would allow you to configure it that way (via boujour (i.e. dhcp)),
> 
> > and it would allow you to have any number of gateways plugged in and
> 
> > still it would work fine, and it would continue to work as an
> > dynamic
> 
> > dns/ dhcp after it is configured.
> 
> > 
> 
> > http://developer.apple.com/networking/bonjour/
> 
> > 
> 
> > Ian
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > On Apr 24, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Andrew Sharp wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > > I've heard that we are going to try and have a WebUI initial
> 
> > > (install) config thing for Zonda release, so I thought I would
> 
> > > write up how I think we should make the system level network part
> 
> > > of that equation happen.  This what I planned to do for Linux
> 
> > > regardless of how the config was done, rather than use a serial
> 
> > > port.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > I'm asking for RFC at this time.  If there are no objections or
> 
> > > questions, I'll schedule a meeting if people think it's necessary.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Cheers,
> 
> > >
> 
> > > a
> 
> > > <dhcpd_initial_ip.txt>
> 
> > 
> 
