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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:52:19 -0800
From: Andrew Sharp <andy.sharp@lsi.com>
To: "Olien, David" <David.Olien@lsi.com>
Cc: "Phelps, David" <David.Phelps@lsi.com>
Subject: Re: mail from David Olien about linux desktop
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No, we will put a filer up there where you guys are, if there isn't one
already that we can get a volume on, and mirror mightydog volumes up
there to you guys.  We will likely have a 'portland-homes' volume up
there which we then mirror down to here.  I assume that office has a
gigabit internal infrastructure (to people's offices).

2 hours, wtf.  The plain old internet is faster than that, and I'm under
the impression from noises coming from the IT department that we have
leased lines (they're called something else nowadays) between our
sites, which should be fast and guaranteed speed, in the 50Mb range.
Even if it's only 25Mb, 15 minutes should handle 2GB.  We might want to
"file a help desk ticket" about this.  I'll ask around to get some
specifics and to double check my assumptions about the leased lines.

Cheers,

a

On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:16:04 -0700 "Olien, David" <David.Olien@lsi.com>
wrote:

> Hi Andy,
> 
> Having our root drive on your NAS seem like a great idea.
> Eat your own dog food and all that...
> 
> One question I have.  Yesterday I was trying to play some
> Mp4 training videos that Jobi pointed me to.  They're on mightydog.
> Trying to play them directly over the network didn't work.  The
> quicktime Player spent more time paused than playing.
> 
> So I decided to copy the files to my local disk. The first file is
> A little under 2 gigabytes in size.  I guess the transfer took about
> Two hours.  So this means my network speed between here and mightydog
> Is about 15 megabytes per second.
> 
> I don't know what write speed is like over the network.
> Is this going to be fast enough to serve as root drive?
> 
> Also, I'm learning more from Chris about your development environment.
> Looks like the process would be to build modules on the development
> Machine, the copy the binary modules to the test machine, and boot it
> up. So there would be some copying going over the network as well.
> 
> Will this be useable?
> 
> Thanks!
> Dave
> 
>        
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Sharp [mailto:andy.sharp@lsi.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:40 PM
> To: Olien, David
> Cc: Ariyamannil, Jobi; Hardiman, Richard; Scheer, Larry; Stark,
> Brian; Phelps, David Subject: Re: mail from David Olien about linux
> desktop
> 
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:57:18 -0700 "Olien, David" <David.Olien@lsi.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Just to expand on my previous reply, to make sure I'm not jumping to
> > conclusions (at the risk of stating the obvious):
> > 
> > I think these requirements should be adequate.  6 cores would be
> > great!
> > 
> > I'd prefer a SATA controller, it's a lost faster than IDE.  But then
> > does ANYONE Build a new desktop with IDE anymore?
> > 
> > Having an external sata port would be nice.
> > 
> > I've been using the Western Digital 1TB green SATA drives.  But
> > something Similar would be great.
> 
> Heh.  The model here is that we use this weird stuff called NAS.  I
> built my system 4 years ago, and I got a pair of 300GB drives...I'm
> using only 120GB still to this day, and that only because I've got a
> dozen NFS roots on it and 2 dozen kernel trees, because: (a) I never
> delete any; and (b) since they are NFS roots, I need some fine grain
> control of the config/sharing details which isn't appropriate for the
> group server.  I do my daily kernel development on my home directory
> (NAS) because things like git and stuff are faster, and because of the
> snapshots ~:^)
> 
> So no worries on the size of the drives.  Your home directory will be
> on the NAS (Onstor policy), and trust me when I say it's better.  It
> is.  And faster too in many instances except large file streaming, and
> even then it's quite decent.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> a
> 
> 
> > And of course the usual 1GB Ethernet. 
> > 
> > My mother board supports PCI-E as well,  but I assume every new
> > motherboard Does.
> > 
> > I'll want two monitors, but I'll go through Jobi to order those.
> > Any suggestions on good monitors?  The last one I bought was an HP
> > 30 inch monitor (it's 2500x1600).  It's really nice, and I only need
> > ONE of those But buying two smaller monitors with the dual graphics
> > port is probably a lot less expensive.
> > 
> > Any additions that are practical and you think would be useful would
> > be Appreciated.
> > 
> > As I said, I built my home desktop a few years ago.  So I'm sure
> > Things have moved on since then
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Sharp [mailto:andy.sharp@lsi.com] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:34 PM
> > To: Ariyamannil, Jobi
> > Cc: Hardiman, Richard; Scheer, Larry; Stark, Brian; Olien, David
> > Subject: Re: mail from David Olien about linux desktop
> > 
> > He will have a linux workstation, guaranteed.  The hardware specs he
> > gave are trivial, probably the default, except maybe the memory, but
> > still trivial to obtain.  Maybe we can get him a six core even.
> > I'll work with Brian and Rich H. to make it happen.
> > 
> > We will do the software install and just mail it to him.
> > 
> > On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:53:25 -0700 "Ariyamannil, Jobi"
> > <Jobi.Ariyamannil@lsi.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > See the email below.  I checked with IT to let him use his
> > > personal computer at work, but the company policy is against
> > > that.  If there is some way to work around it, please let me know.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------
> > > I'm really not an avid Windows user.  I can use it when I need to.
> > > But when it comes to development environment, I'm much more
> > > familiar with and comfortable with Linux.  The common
> > > configuration I'm familiar with is to have a desktop running
> > > Linux, equipped with dual monitors, to have more work space.
> > > There are several features of Linux that I'm accustomed to, that
> > > are not available under Windows.
> > > 
> > > I know that the IT people don't want to support Linux.  They're
> > > more focused on the folks running spread sheets and administrative
> > > applications, I suspect.
> > > 
> > > Also, do you know if there is a Linux client for the Cisco VPN?
> > > 
> > > What I'd propose is to use the vmware tools to take an image of my
> > > windows environment.  Then I could run that in a VM under Linux.
> > > That way I could use IE when I needed to, and could also continue
> > > to use outlook for email if that's needed.  If there is no Cisco
> > > VPN client, then I could probably run it under the windows VM.
> > > That would allow me to at least send and receive email from home.
> > > 
> > > Or I could add a network switch to my cubicle, and my Windows
> > > laptop could share a network port with the Linux desktop (I have
> > > my own network switch at home that I could bring in to use).
> > > 
> > > I have my own system that I'd be willing to bring it to use, if
> > > that would be acceptable.  It has a single socket, 4-core intel
> > > processor, 8 gigabytes of RAM, and a couple terabytes of disk
> > > storage, and a dual-ported graphics card that supports dual
> > > monitors.  I have been running CentOs on it.  But from what I
> > > heard during the interview process, it seems Debian is
> > > preferred?  I could install that distro on it instead.
> > > 
> > > I also have a pair of extra monitors at home as well
> > > 
> > > For now, I'm reading the documents you pointed us to, and trying
> > > to finish up the new employee stuff.  The windows laptop is
> > > adequate for that.  But before getting into the source code, I'd
> > > really like to have a different desktop.  As I mentioned, I have
> > > a system of my own that I'd be willing to bring in to use if
> > > that's OK.
> > > 
> > > Dave
> > > 
> > > 
