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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:30:52 -0800
From: Andrew Sharp <andy.sharp@lsi.com>
To: "Olien, David" <David.Olien@lsi.com>
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Subject: Re: mail from David Olien about linux desktop
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Go for it.

On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:06:58 -0700 "Olien, David" <David.Olien@lsi.com>
wrote:

> Andy,
> 
> I talked briefly with Melissa, our IT person on site here.
> She says that all traffic from OnStor goes through the LSI office at
> Milpitas. Does that agree with what you think is happening?  Could
> the band with limit Be between Milpitas and here?
> 
> And she further says this is all under control of the WAN team in
> Allentown. So if you like, I can file a request with the help@lsi.com
> today?
> 
> Dave
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Sharp [mailto:andy.sharp@lsi.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:52 AM
> To: Olien, David
> Cc: Phelps, David
> Subject: Re: mail from David Olien about linux desktop
> 
> No, we will put a filer up there where you guys are, if there isn't
> one already that we can get a volume on, and mirror mightydog volumes
> up there to you guys.  We will likely have a 'portland-homes' volume
> up there which we then mirror down to here.  I assume that office has
> a gigabit internal infrastructure (to people's offices).
> 
> 2 hours, wtf.  The plain old internet is faster than that, and I'm
> under the impression from noises coming from the IT department that
> we have leased lines (they're called something else nowadays) between
> our sites, which should be fast and guaranteed speed, in the 50Mb
> range. Even if it's only 25Mb, 15 minutes should handle 2GB.  We
> might want to "file a help desk ticket" about this.  I'll ask around
> to get some specifics and to double check my assumptions about the
> leased lines.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> a
> 
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:16:04 -0700 "Olien, David" <David.Olien@lsi.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Andy,
> > 
> > Having our root drive on your NAS seem like a great idea.
> > Eat your own dog food and all that...
> > 
> > One question I have.  Yesterday I was trying to play some
> > Mp4 training videos that Jobi pointed me to.  They're on mightydog.
> > Trying to play them directly over the network didn't work.  The
> > quicktime Player spent more time paused than playing.
> > 
> > So I decided to copy the files to my local disk. The first file is
> > A little under 2 gigabytes in size.  I guess the transfer took about
> > Two hours.  So this means my network speed between here and
> > mightydog Is about 15 megabytes per second.
> > 
> > I don't know what write speed is like over the network.
> > Is this going to be fast enough to serve as root drive?
> > 
> > Also, I'm learning more from Chris about your development
> > environment. Looks like the process would be to build modules on
> > the development Machine, the copy the binary modules to the test
> > machine, and boot it up. So there would be some copying going over
> > the network as well.
> > 
> > Will this be useable?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > Dave
> > 
> >        
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Sharp [mailto:andy.sharp@lsi.com] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:40 PM
> > To: Olien, David
> > Cc: Ariyamannil, Jobi; Hardiman, Richard; Scheer, Larry; Stark,
> > Brian; Phelps, David Subject: Re: mail from David Olien about linux
> > desktop
> > 
> > On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:57:18 -0700 "Olien, David"
> > <David.Olien@lsi.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Just to expand on my previous reply, to make sure I'm not jumping
> > > to conclusions (at the risk of stating the obvious):
> > > 
> > > I think these requirements should be adequate.  6 cores would be
> > > great!
> > > 
> > > I'd prefer a SATA controller, it's a lost faster than IDE.  But
> > > then does ANYONE Build a new desktop with IDE anymore?
> > > 
> > > Having an external sata port would be nice.
> > > 
> > > I've been using the Western Digital 1TB green SATA drives.  But
> > > something Similar would be great.
> > 
> > Heh.  The model here is that we use this weird stuff called NAS.  I
> > built my system 4 years ago, and I got a pair of 300GB drives...I'm
> > using only 120GB still to this day, and that only because I've got a
> > dozen NFS roots on it and 2 dozen kernel trees, because: (a) I never
> > delete any; and (b) since they are NFS roots, I need some fine grain
> > control of the config/sharing details which isn't appropriate for
> > the group server.  I do my daily kernel development on my home
> > directory (NAS) because things like git and stuff are faster, and
> > because of the snapshots ~:^)
> > 
> > So no worries on the size of the drives.  Your home directory will
> > be on the NAS (Onstor policy), and trust me when I say it's
> > better.  It is.  And faster too in many instances except large file
> > streaming, and even then it's quite decent.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > a
> > 
> > 
> > > And of course the usual 1GB Ethernet. 
> > > 
> > > My mother board supports PCI-E as well,  but I assume every new
> > > motherboard Does.
> > > 
> > > I'll want two monitors, but I'll go through Jobi to order those.
> > > Any suggestions on good monitors?  The last one I bought was an HP
> > > 30 inch monitor (it's 2500x1600).  It's really nice, and I only
> > > need ONE of those But buying two smaller monitors with the dual
> > > graphics port is probably a lot less expensive.
> > > 
> > > Any additions that are practical and you think would be useful
> > > would be Appreciated.
> > > 
> > > As I said, I built my home desktop a few years ago.  So I'm sure
> > > Things have moved on since then
> > > 
> > > Dave
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andrew Sharp [mailto:andy.sharp@lsi.com] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:34 PM
> > > To: Ariyamannil, Jobi
> > > Cc: Hardiman, Richard; Scheer, Larry; Stark, Brian; Olien, David
> > > Subject: Re: mail from David Olien about linux desktop
> > > 
> > > He will have a linux workstation, guaranteed.  The hardware specs
> > > he gave are trivial, probably the default, except maybe the
> > > memory, but still trivial to obtain.  Maybe we can get him a six
> > > core even. I'll work with Brian and Rich H. to make it happen.
> > > 
> > > We will do the software install and just mail it to him.
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:53:25 -0700 "Ariyamannil, Jobi"
> > > <Jobi.Ariyamannil@lsi.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > See the email below.  I checked with IT to let him use his
> > > > personal computer at work, but the company policy is against
> > > > that.  If there is some way to work around it, please let me
> > > > know.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ------------------
> > > > I'm really not an avid Windows user.  I can use it when I need
> > > > to. But when it comes to development environment, I'm much more
> > > > familiar with and comfortable with Linux.  The common
> > > > configuration I'm familiar with is to have a desktop running
> > > > Linux, equipped with dual monitors, to have more work space.
> > > > There are several features of Linux that I'm accustomed to, that
> > > > are not available under Windows.
> > > > 
> > > > I know that the IT people don't want to support Linux.  They're
> > > > more focused on the folks running spread sheets and
> > > > administrative applications, I suspect.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, do you know if there is a Linux client for the Cisco VPN?
> > > > 
> > > > What I'd propose is to use the vmware tools to take an image of
> > > > my windows environment.  Then I could run that in a VM under
> > > > Linux. That way I could use IE when I needed to, and could also
> > > > continue to use outlook for email if that's needed.  If there
> > > > is no Cisco VPN client, then I could probably run it under the
> > > > windows VM. That would allow me to at least send and receive
> > > > email from home.
> > > > 
> > > > Or I could add a network switch to my cubicle, and my Windows
> > > > laptop could share a network port with the Linux desktop (I have
> > > > my own network switch at home that I could bring in to use).
> > > > 
> > > > I have my own system that I'd be willing to bring it to use, if
> > > > that would be acceptable.  It has a single socket, 4-core intel
> > > > processor, 8 gigabytes of RAM, and a couple terabytes of disk
> > > > storage, and a dual-ported graphics card that supports dual
> > > > monitors.  I have been running CentOs on it.  But from what I
> > > > heard during the interview process, it seems Debian is
> > > > preferred?  I could install that distro on it instead.
> > > > 
> > > > I also have a pair of extra monitors at home as well
> > > > 
> > > > For now, I'm reading the documents you pointed us to, and trying
> > > > to finish up the new employee stuff.  The windows laptop is
> > > > adequate for that.  But before getting into the source code, I'd
> > > > really like to have a different desktop.  As I mentioned, I have
> > > > a system of my own that I'd be willing to bring in to use if
> > > > that's OK.
> > > > 
> > > > Dave
> > > > 
> > > > 
